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				Here as in CP, or here as in Calgary?  
 
I'm actually surprised that you post here, with all the people jumping down your throat. Not cool by them at all. Most of us appreciate your work. Don't let the keyboard warriors turn you off. 
			
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His post suggested (intentional or not) that Huberdeau was annoyed with Sutter, not that he was annoyed with Francis (which was clarified later… it seems like at least). People generally don’t like negative rumour mongering about players and coaches based on nothing, which is why they responded.
 
No need to make this into something it isn’t. Nothing to do with “keyboard warriors” or whatever cheesy buzzword you want to shoehorn in.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-15-2022, 05:55 PM
			
			
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				Yes, that is in fact exactly what is happening 
			
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Incredible watching these things snowball from nothing lol.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-15-2022, 05:55 PM
			
			
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				Eric used the word interesting earlier in the day. Huberdeau threw it back in his face after the game. Two different scrums. 
			
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I went back and watched it seems like a guy who doesn't like Francis because of the garbage he has be putting out. Good job by Eric endearing himself to the new guys. He tried to chase Jarome out of Calgary and Johnny and looks like he has started the same crap with Huberdeau 12 games into his career with the Flames.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-15-2022, 05:55 PM
			
			
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				Actually I think he can handle Sutter. He was more annoyed with Eric. 
			
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Who isn’t annoyed by Eric??  If there are no problems with the team, you can bet tat Eric is going to stir the pot until there is a problem. He is such a weasel!!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-15-2022, 05:58 PM
			
			
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				His post suggested (intentional or not) that Huberdeau was annoyed with Sutter, not that he was annoyed with Francis (which was clarified later… it seems like at least). People generally don’t like negative rumour mongering about players and coaches based on nothing, which is why they responded. 
 
No need to make this into something it isn’t. Nothing to do with “keyboard warriors” or whatever cheesy buzzword you want to shoehorn in. 
			
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The post was confusing I thought it was about Huberdeau and Sutter, but turns out its annoyance with Francis? 
 
Literally starts off with people are wondering how Huberdeau and Sutter are getting along.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-15-2022, 06:27 PM
			
			
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			Well, here's a hot take. Even a soft Canadian media presence like Calgary is still a million degrees more intense than a Florida panhandle media market. Huberdeau is going to take some time adjusting to that as well. 
 
Don't really think there's anything to see here other than Canadian hockey media drumming up storylines.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-15-2022, 06:31 PM
			
			
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			The story doesn't really bother me as maybe there's something there but I don't think it's much to get concerned about.  Huberdeau is going to be here another 8 seasons after this one and Darryl isn't.  That's the reality.  Darryl's going to do his thing to movitave players and it works great until it doesn't and that's when he's at the end of his shelf life.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-15-2022, 06:56 PM
			
			
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				Well, here's a hot take. Even a soft Canadian media presence like Calgary is still a million degrees more intense than a Florida panhandle media market. Huberdeau is going to take some time adjusting to that as well. 
 
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Nailed it.  This is a very soft media market and Eric Francis is hardly an issue IMO.  It’s just not the total anonymity that Miami would be.
 
But honestly this is a weird article.  There was a day when media would do some corroboration before reporting a player was “annoyed”.  If being annoyed was ever considered being newsworthy in the first place.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-15-2022, 06:59 PM
			
			
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				Here as in CP, or here as in Calgary?  
 
I'm actually surprised that you post here, with all the people jumping down your throat. Not cool by them at all. Most of us appreciate your work. Don't let the keyboard warriors turn you off. 
			
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I have thick skin. I'm here for the conversations, opinions, debates. All of it. I try to offer whatever insight I may have. If people think I'm terrible, that's OK too. I appreciate your comment, though.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Well, here's a hot take. Even a soft Canadian media presence like Calgary is still a million degrees more intense than a Florida panhandle media market. Huberdeau is going to take some time adjusting to that as well. 
 
Don't really think there's anything to see here other than Canadian hockey media drumming up storylines. 
			
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When was Jonathan Huberdeau in North Florida?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-15-2022, 07:21 PM
			
			
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				Nailed it.  This is a very soft media market and Eric Francis is hardly an issue IMO.  It’s just not the total anonymity that Miami would be. 
 
But honestly this is a weird article.  There was a day when media would do some corroboration before reporting a player was “annoyed”.  If being annoyed was ever considered being newsworthy in the first place. 
			
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I guess I should clarify because some people are reading my post but not the article itself. 
 
If you read the article, you'll see I  did not publish the parts about Huberdeau being annoyed with the media in it. That was just for you guys here at CP. 
 
The article itself is just about the challenges Huberdeau has had to face since coming here, and that navigating a new coach - especially one like Sutter - is another challenge. 
 
I fully believe he will be fine in the long-term and he'll be a point-per-game player by the end of the season.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I don't have the answer but plenty are wondering — how are Huberdeau and his new head coach getting along?  
For the first time this season, I saw a little frustration with the media. Maybe disguised with humour, but he used a very specific word — "interesting" — in an answer to a colleague. 
 
He pulled it out of the morning skate scrum when it was used to describe his season so far (not his word) and it didn't really fit the question he was asked post-game. So it was intentional even if the reason wasn't obvious. 
 
With all the Sutter motivation tactics and words in the media regarding Huberdeau's start, and slotting him with Backlund (which may end up actually being a genius move) I think getting on the road for six is a good thing for Huberdeau right now. The pressures here can be intense. 
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I wish this detail was present over the last two decades by Canadian media when it came to some of the stories Rick Westhead is reporting.
  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				In fairness to Eric, he asked a fair question. It was just his choice of wording using interesting as a descriptor that didn't go over well for whatever reason. 
			
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You're ok with Eric Francis...and you're picking apart Huberdeau's choice of words.  English is the guys second language too...he's great at it, but the grammar structure difference alone from French to English and back is going to produce some oddities.
 
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			11-15-2022, 07:30 PM
			
			
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				I have thick skin. I'm here for the conversations, opinions, debates. All of it. I try to offer whatever insight I may have. If people think I'm terrible, that's OK too. I appreciate your comment, though. 
			
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I don't think people think you are terrible. I don't personally. 
 
Your initial post start off with Sutter and Huberdeau not getting along. It was confusing because it doesn't say hes annoyed by a question from Eric Francis. 
 
The annoyance and article have nothing to do with Sutter, I think that's what confused everyone. 
 
Maybe Huberdeau showing signs of annoyance from the media and not mentioning Sutter would be better.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-15-2022, 07:33 PM
			
			
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				I remain fascinated by how people on this forum react to this.  
 
I have now heard rumors about Sutter and Huberdeau's relationship being off to a bad start from Frank Seravalli (on barnburner) the barn burner hosts themselves. Mike Commodore reporting what he heard last Saturday on the Sportsnet youtube broadcast vs Winnipeg. Eric Francis. Steve Macfarlane. They're not creating the issue by reporting on it 
			
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			11-15-2022, 07:59 PM
			
			
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				You're ok with Eric Francis...and you're picking apart Huberdeau's choice of words.  English is the guys second language too...he's great at it, but the grammar structure difference alone from French to English and back is going to produce some oddities. 
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I'm not sure what you're talking about here. I never said anything about Huberdeau's choice of words. And he's really great with English. No problems with that at all.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I don't think people think you are terrible. I don't personally.  
 
Your initial post start off with Sutter and Huberdeau not getting along. It was confusing because it doesn't say hes annoyed by a question from Eric Francis.  
 
The annoyance and article have nothing to do with Sutter, I think that's what confused everyone.  
 
Maybe Huberdeau showing signs of annoyance from the media and not mentioning Sutter would be better. 
			
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Sorry for the confusion. I can see how it happened from the initial post. I was sharing something separate from the article but didn't make that clear. My bad. But also, yes, quite certain Huberdeau has not been a big fan of Sutter's motivation tactics so far. And that's fine, too. I don't think he has to be and they'll be fine long-term.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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