Former Flames player performance thread - 2022/23 season

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I tend to defend fans who lose their cool during a game and take losses hard. Sports fandom is about passion and irrationality.

But if months later you’re still obsessing over how far Columbus is from his parents or talking about his wife or spewing this nonsense, it’s embarrassing.

lol. too much brew tonight? Never said a word about his wife. Laughing at him choosing a loser team is obsessing. sure!

[alan21]

I still think he was the one that did us a favor.
We were never going to win paying him 10.5/year for 8 years.
Thanks for the memories John, we have moved on too.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

lol. too much brew tonight? Never said a word about his wife. Laughing at him choosing a loser team is obsessing. sure!

No you said nothing about his wife in that post. Countless others like to talk about it and I have a feeling you’ve been among them. Just a hunch.

You seem very interested in how far away he lives from his parents though.

[Johnny Makarov]

MOD EDIT: Removed post with insults.

[cam_calderon]

If you think we're worse off without Johnny, I can understand some irrationality... but in pretty much every way the Flames are a better team now.

Obsessing over Gaudreau now seems pretty immature.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

MOD EDIT: Post removed.

Yeah good point. You seem to always take the high road.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

If you think we're worse off without Johnny, I can understand some irrationality... but in pretty much every way the Flames are a better team now.

Obsessing over Gaudreau now seems pretty immature.

comes to former player thread...angry people are discussing former player

They guy said Nah to 10.5x8 from the Flames after they drafted (when nobody else wanted to give him a chance) and developed him. Went from a division winner to a basement dweller for less money in the process. You bet your ass it will be discussed for years to come.

[cam_calderon]

Well, I didn't use the word 'discussing', so I'm not sure what you're on about. Quite a chasm between having some mirth about Johnny's predicament and, yes, literally obsessing over details in his personal life. Come on.

And again on your second point, of course it can be discussed. But I'd hope it can be done in better taste.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by dino7c

comes to former player thread...angry people are discussing former player

They guy said Nah to 10.5x8 from the Flames after they drafted (when nobody else wanted to give him a chance) and developed him. Went from a division winner to a basement dweller for less money in the process. You bet your ass it will be discussed for years to come.

There may possibly be a happy medium between not discussing a former player as if they ceased to exist and obsessing over their domestic situation.

[TheoFleury]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

40% of first marriages end in divorce, in Canada. Not 50%+

First marriages?

Just give them time and filter out all the ones bound by hard core religion

People married two weeks ago are still married but probably won't be in 20 years

It's an evolving trend

[TheoFleury]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Well, that is just not true. Another poster who is close to the Gaudreaus has said that leaving Calgary was NOT what she wanted. So, let's stop pinning how everything went down on her.


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He wanted to stay, she wanted to stay

Weird how it still didn't happen

Was his mom the final say so?

[manwiches]

[tvp2003]

No, kindly take that garbage elsewhere.

November 1 update:

Gaudreau: 5G, 3A, 8P - leads Columbus in scoring
Gudbranson: 0G, 3A, -6 plus/minus
Columbus: 3-7-0, last in the Eastern Conference

Tkachuk: 5G, 8A, 13P - leads Panthers in scoring
Bennett: 1G, 3A.
Panthers: 5-3-1, 3rd in the Atlantic

Monahan: 2G, 4A, 6P - 3rd on Canadiens in scoring

Valimaki: 0G, 2A, +2 (tied for 1st in Arizona), 17:35 min/game

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think the hate on Johnny would have been quite a bit less had he signed with the Devils. It is his home state where he has an offseason home, they are a team with young talent and good prospects. When he went with Columbus it didn’t sit right for many Flames fans who would have understood the Devils or Flyers. Losing to Columbus for less money and not being super close to home was a weird choice.

I really enjoy seeing the Jackets be no good and hopefully they bury themselves early only to go on a late run to draft 12th overall.

100%, had he signed in Philly or Jersey I'd have had no issues. Especially the Devils who are a young, up and coming team. But Columbus? That just felt like a kick in the nuts. They finished 30 points behind the Flames, and it's not like Columbus is some tropical paradise.

Go home to Philly or Jersey? No ill will. But Columbus? Yeah, go #### yourself.

Kind of says it all about him and his commitment to winning though, doesn't it?

[Hockey_Ninja]

I like how this thread suddenly morphed into the Gaudreau to Columbus thread

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

No, kindly take that garbage elsewhere.

November 1 update:

Gaudreau: 5G, 3A, 8P - leads Columbus in scoring
Gudbranson: 0G, 3A, -6 plus/minus
Columbus: 3-7-0, last in the Eastern Conference

Tkachuk: 5G, 8A, 13P - leads Panthers in scoring
Bennett: 1G, 3A.
Panthers: 5-3-1, 3rd in the Atlantic

Monahan: 2G, 4A, 6P - 3rd on Canadiens in scoring

Valimaki: 0G, 2A, +2 (tied for 1st in Arizona), 17:35 min/game

2 points and Valimaki is tied for team lead on scoring? LOL

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

so is this season showing that lindholm was the weakest member of that top line ? or at least the most "complementary" player? or do people just see it as lindy is having a slow start

[FBI]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

2 points and Valimaki is tied for team lead on scoring? LOL

I think they meant the +2 part

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

so is this season showing that lindholm was the weakest member of that top line ? or at least the most "complementary" player? or do people just see it as lindy is having a slow start

Or the Flames have played 7 games with the hardest strength of schedule in the NHL (and its not even close)

Points also aren't everything...Panthers haven't beaten a team that made the playoffs last season and well Columbus has lost 7 games already. Those guys outscored Lindholm by a lot last year too but I would say their contribution to wins overall was pretty even.

Gaudreau is a minus player after having the best plus minus in 20 years last season

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by FBI

I think they meant the +2 part

Correct -- Valimaki and Christian Fischer are both +2, everyone else on the team is either 0 or a negative (Gostisbehere is last with a -9).

It's obviously not a perfect stat but it's still worth mentioning...