10-09-2022, 04:44 PM
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This very disturbing, but is their anything the NHL can do unless the person comes out from being anonymous? If a person was advising Ian Cole they will of course advise to deny the allegations, as the criminal and civil impacts would be huge.
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10-09-2022, 05:08 PM
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If you want a different perspective, look at his current Instagram account… wow, really?
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10-09-2022, 05:16 PM
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Franchise Player
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by scobel
This very disturbing, but is their anything the NHL can do unless the person comes out from being anonymous? If a person was advising Ian Cole they will of course advise to deny the allegations, as the criminal and civil impacts would be huge.
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Isn’t there conduct clauses in these contracts? I think they could suspend if they determine they broke any of them.
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10-09-2022, 05:40 PM
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#24
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Originally Posted by genetic_phreek
True hockey culture is finally being exposed. I've been around hockey guys most of my life and I've always said if I had a daughter, the only ask was not to be involved with a hockey boy.
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There’s certainly a level of aggression and “take what you want” (ie entitlement) attitude bred into elite hockey players over the course of their lives, and I’d expect is a big component in why they’re such good hockey players. Just my opinion but I think we’re seeing the result of raising young boys & men in this manner, while also treating the elite ones like rockstars outside of the game. When that mentality is being bred into them on the ice, and they more or less grow up on the ice, that mentality doesn’t always turn off outside of the arena.
Edit: I should add, I’m not trying to excuse their behaviours. What I think needs to be mandatory when the dust settles after this movement, is there needs to be some level of life-coaching at the junior hockey level. League-mandated. Teach these boys how to behave in life off of the ice.
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10-09-2022, 06:10 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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10-09-2022, 06:14 PM
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10-09-2022, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Ford Prefect
Sorry. Gotta speak out about the Edmonton memes with regards to these matters. I don’t mean to attack individual posters. I personally don’t think sexual misconduct is a suitable subject for jokes and memes. It is vile, unacceptable behaviour and should not be made light of. Making light of these matters diminishes their seriousness.
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Originally Posted by FiveSeven
Understandable opinion but I can laugh at something while still comprehending the evil, disgusting unacceptable behavior.
There could be 100 jokes and many laughs and I'll still think Ian Cole (if this is all true) is a piece of #### that should receive real consequences.
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Yeah, sometimes the best way to deal with the darkness is to make light of it. It's a coping mechanism for many, including me. Don't read too much into it, Ford.
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10-09-2022, 07:15 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Yeah, sometimes the best way to deal with the darkness is to make light of it. It's a coping mechanism for many, including me. Don't read too much into it, Ford.
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You are correct. Well known comedian Bobby Lee is a victim of sexual abuse and uses comedy as an escape.
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10-09-2022, 07:20 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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10-09-2022, 07:20 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford Prefect
Sorry. Gotta speak out about the Edmonton memes with regards to these matters. I don’t mean to attack individual posters. I personally don’t think sexual misconduct is a suitable subject for jokes and memes. It is vile, unacceptable behaviour and should not be made light of. Making light of these matters diminishes their seriousness.
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So let's roast the Oilers who continue to give these dirtbags opportunity and millions of dollars because they are good at a kids game. If some of these guy actually had consequences things might change.
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10-09-2022, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Yeah, sometimes the best way to deal with the darkness is to make light of it. It's a coping mechanism for many, including me. Don't read too much into it, Ford.
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‘The devil, the prowde spirite, cannot endure to be mocked.’ —St. Thomas More
If we can't hit the scumbags in any other way, we can hit them in the ego. We might get some of them to figure out that this sort of behaviour does not make a person cool.
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10-09-2022, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dino7c
So let's roast the Oilers who continue to give these dirtbags opportunity and millions of dollars because they are good at a kids game. If some of these guy actually had consequences things might change.
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Let's not pretend that our roster is squeaky clean, because it's not (pending investigation).
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10-09-2022, 08:58 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Nyah
Let's not pretend that our roster is squeaky clean, because it's not (pending investigation).
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This is a hockey culture problem. Every team in the league will have issues on their rosters.
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10-10-2022, 09:50 AM
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My face is a bum!
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Originally Posted by BoLevi
This is a hockey culture problem. Every team in the league will have issues on their rosters.
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And no one should be given more benefit of the doubt because you like the colour of the shirt.
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10-10-2022, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BoLevi
This is a hockey culture problem. Every team in the league will have issues on their rosters.
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Only some trade to add them in though.
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10-10-2022, 11:12 AM
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#36
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Another disgusting story, from a disgusting locker room culture. Major clean up is needed and I can’t wait until the whole thing collapses.
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10-10-2022, 11:24 AM
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Let's not pretend that our roster is squeaky clean, because it's not (pending investigation).
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There is a big difference between having a player you signed before allegations came out on your roster and actually pursuing players with issues in their history because you can get them at a discount to help your terrible cap situation.
Edit: And I fully expect the Flames will deal appropriately with any player directly named.
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10-10-2022, 11:28 AM
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Let's not pretend that our roster is squeaky clean, because it's not (pending investigation).
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Just because there are likely undiscovered issues on other teams in hockey, that doesn't mean we should stop shining a light on the discovered ones.
When others come to light, they should be denounced as well.
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10-10-2022, 11:56 AM
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#39
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Appealing my suspension
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This sounds like the stories that would circulate thru my high-school Monday mornings in the esrly 90's living in a Junior Hockey City. I expect Football and Basketball on college campuses are much the same.
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10-10-2022, 12:30 PM
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#40
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Scoring Winger
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Ian Cole
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fonz
There’s certainly a level of aggression and “take what you want” (ie entitlement) attitude bred into elite hockey players over the course of their lives, and I’d expect is a big component in why they’re such good hockey players. Just my opinion but I think we’re seeing the result of raising young boys & men in this manner, while also treating the elite ones like rockstars outside of the game. When that mentality is being bred into them on the ice, and they more or less grow up on the ice, that mentality doesn’t always turn off outside of the arena.
Edit: I should add, I’m not trying to excuse their behaviours. What I think needs to be mandatory when the dust settles after this movement, is there needs to be some level of life-coaching at the junior hockey level. League-mandated. Teach these boys how to behave in life off of the ice.
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Some level of life coaching needs to begin with Mom and Dad before the player reaches the junior level.
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