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Old 07-29-2022, 11:18 AM   #3781
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Longest of long shots here, but fun discussion fodder. Do you make an offer if you’re the Jays? Probably one of the few teams with prospect capital to get it done. Though, doubtful Angels want to ship Ohtani to an AL team IMO
100% I do. A really strong offer at that.
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Old 07-29-2022, 12:14 PM   #3782
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I bet if Ohtani gets traded its to the Dodgers. They have like 7 top 100 prospects and Ohtani wouldn't even change cities.

Having him on the Jays would be incredible though.

Ohtani
Manoah
Gausman
Berrios
Kikuchi/Stripling

And then add that power left handed bat to the 3 hole...

Springer
Vladdy
Ohtani
Kirk
Bichette
Hernandez
Gurriel
Chapman
Jansen/Biggio/Espinal/Tapia

Damn...
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Old 07-29-2022, 12:28 PM   #3783
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would you?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb...se/ar-AA106tWZ

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Shohei Ohtani seems like he could fit in well with the fun Toronto Blue Jays team. This young club with some veterans sprinkled in could use both his pitching arm and left-handed bat. Perhaps nobody in baseball could specifically use both more than Toronto.

How much could they give up for Ohtani?

The full trade includes Gabriel Moreno, Rickey Tiedemann, Jordan Groshans, Sem Robberse, Adam Kloffenstein, and Hayden Juenger going to the Angels for Ohtani. Like any massive trade for this one-of-a-kind superstar, it's going to leave the Blue Jays feeling a little barren.

This trade exclusively includes prospects. The Blue Jays give up Moreno (1), Tiedemann (3), Groshans (4), Robberse (7), Kloffenstein (11), and Juenger (26) all with the mindset to win a championship either this season or next season.

Moreno is the easy headliner as the current fifth-best prospect in all of baseball. Tiedemann (62) and Groshans (83) are also in the top 100 at the moment.

The Angels fetch a mix of bats and arms in this deal. If it's not enough, the Blue Jays shouldn't hesitate to add a little more. None of their prospects are all that untouchable, even Moreno. The arrival of Alejandro Kirk this season as an All-Star catcher makes him terrific trade fodder they could use as a headliner in a trade for a superstar like Ohtani.
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Old 07-29-2022, 12:34 PM   #3784
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I bet if Ohtani gets traded its to the Dodgers.
Probably gets traded to Yankees for Gallo.
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Old 07-29-2022, 12:36 PM   #3785
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I would not, pitchers are to much risk...

Great one season, elbow surgery the next.

Especially in his case,

Asking price is way to high
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Old 07-29-2022, 01:15 PM   #3786
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Same I just don’t really think any of the trade five top prospects for either is going to work. Ohtani is a big risk and Soto despite his amazing bat is already a negative in field and on the base paths.
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Old 07-29-2022, 01:45 PM   #3787
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If Ohtani could sign an extension, I'd deal in a pretty high price. Frankly I'd pay way more for him than Soto, in a trade. From the sounds of it from Shapiro's interviews yesterday, I don't think they're big game hunting, as they do want a sustainable prospect base. Last year I think they decided to pull the trigger because their prospect base was pretty heavy but it certainly sounds like this is a good place. They definitely need bullpen help, and a couple bats off the bench. I don't think any of them will cost an arm and a leg as there will likely be incremental upgrades.
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Old 07-29-2022, 02:14 PM   #3788
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Looks like Bichette is out day to day with a sore shoulder. Springer available off the bench.
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Old 07-29-2022, 02:20 PM   #3789
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Maybe Bo shouldn’t charge full speed into the of to get to a fly ball that’s the Lfs responsibility.
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Old 07-29-2022, 02:32 PM   #3790
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Ya I’m not sure what Bo was doing there. Weird play for sure.
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Old 07-29-2022, 02:34 PM   #3791
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So I guess those without Apple TV can't watch the game today? Boooooooo
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Old 07-29-2022, 02:41 PM   #3792
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Old 07-29-2022, 02:46 PM   #3793
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With the current state of the AL East you can't afford to give up your future to "Go" for it unless you guarantee yourself you aren't playing in a wildcard. Anything can happen in 1 game and it's not worth gambling your future on that. As for Ohtani I feel he is overrated, how much is the extra spot he makes in the rotation or bench worth?
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Old 07-29-2022, 03:10 PM   #3794
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Overrated? Please explain how.
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So I guess those without Apple TV can't watch the game today? Boooooooo
The Apple TV app says that Friday Night Baseball (jays v tigers) is “Free for a limited time” so may be able to watch tonight?
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The Apple TV app says that Friday Night Baseball (jays v tigers) is “Free for a limited time” so may be able to watch tonight?
Yeah, I think all games on Apple TV are free. It's still a pain though for a lot of people.
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Ohtani overrated?

He's literally an ACE starting pitcher who also happens to hit full-time and brings with him a 135 wRC+ left handed bat

The guy makes history on almost a weekly basis.

Calling him overrated is.. ..interesting?
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A modern day Babe Ruth is “overrated”.

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If Soto or Ohtani can be had for top prospects you do the deal and run. Anyone remember who was traded for Miguel Cabrera? A bunch of prospects that turned out to be nothing.
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