2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[PepsiFree]

Stone can take his 800k 1 year deal in September like he does every year.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

There's lots of room in Kylington's game for growth, and I think he could become a true top-pairing defenseman if he shores up the weaknesses in his game. Giving up on him now would be a mistake IMO.

Hanifin and Kylington are the same age, so there is likely lots more upside to his game and he's further ahead. That said, he's also likely the more appealing asset to get return via trade, because he's the significantly better player at this point.

I think options need to be considered. But I go from feel like we have an amazing Top 4 right now with the addition of Weegar, which immediately goes to, feels like it's missing a piece if we move out Hanifin. I agree, the best from Kylington is likely still to come (same with Hanifin) but it's a bigger hit to lose Hanifin right now by a long shot imo.

[dino7c]

I wouldn't trade a dman unless its a massive overpay like a youngish high end NHL forward

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Weegar
Tanev
Hanifin
Andersson
Zadorov
Kylington
Välimäki
Mackey
Meloche
Gilbert

That's 10 D men, and that's not including Micheal Stone who the Flames could bring back.

Two of those guys are Welinski and Gravel replacements. Sutter preferred Stone over the other two last year.

[Flamesfan05]

There is no room for all of them

[NOISIA]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

There is no room for all of them

That’s why the AHL exists.

[Monahammer]

How much do you reckon you'd have to add to mangiapane to get to barzal value?

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by activeStick

I agree with you on the outlook for him. He's developed quite nicely. But playing in the top 6 is hard for any player who hasn't played in the NHL before. Harder to check, harder to keep up and harder to score. He'll need his time to get up to NHL pace and smart coaches won't put him in a tough spot in the top 6 to do this.

I would put him on a "3rd" line with Toffoli. Which I would basically refer to as a "softer minute" scoring line. The Lindholm/Huberdeau & Backlund/Coleman lines start against the tougher competition leaving that line to start against other teams 3rd lines. Still a step up in competition from the AHL but at the same time he's not tasked with shutting down the Crosbys and McDavids or required to be a primary offensive weapon.

[Icon]

I really think we see a trade moving out one of Hanifin, Kylington, Valimaki or Mackey.
Comes down to what we want back as far as who gets traded.

Meloche & Gilbert will be in the AHL.

That leaves 7 guys left, meaning one of Mackey/Kylington/Valimaki is eating popcorn most nights, until we have to deal with an injury.

[camm13]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I think Stone is a good Gudbranson replacement. Give him 3 years at 1.5mil.

Why would we double his salary and lock him to term, when he's a full time Calgary resident who re signs for minimum every year. He's in the press box 90 percent of the time

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by camm13

Why would we double his salary and lock him to term, when he's a full time Calgary resident who re signs for minimum every year. He's in the press box 90 percent of the time

I like him a lot and he’s committed here, but he’s pretty overrated by some. He certainly isn’t a Gudbranson replacement. They are very different players.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Icon

I really think we see a trade moving out one of Hanifin, Kylington, Valimaki or Mackey.
Comes down to what we want back as far as who gets traded.

Meloche & Gilbert will be in the AHL.

That leaves 7 guys left, meaning one of Mackey/Kylington/Valimaki is eating popcorn most nights, until we have to deal with an injury.

I think that would still leave 8 and 2 eating popcorn..

Hanifin-Andersson
Kylington-Tanev
Zadorov-Weegar
Valimaki-Mackey

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I like him a lot and he’s committed here, but he’s pretty overrated by some. He certainly isn’t a Gudbranson replacement. They are very different players.

He’s an injury replacement and secret weapon of a cannon.

[Icon]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

I think that would still leave 8 and 2 eating popcorn..

Hanifin-Andersson
Kylington-Tanev
Zadorov-Weegar
Valimaki-Mackey

I said trade one of Hanifin, Kylington, Valimaki or Mackey.

[Muta]

Man, Michael Stone is awesome. Loves this city, loves the organization, plays for basically league minimum, and when he does come in and play, he plays more often than not like a top-four defenseman - he was a beast for us in the games he played last year and playoffs, stepping in like a frickin' champ. That's way more than you can ask for of a 7th D-man. We're lucky to have him, and I hope he's back again.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Muta

Man, Michael Stone is awesome. Loves this city, loves the organization, plays for basically league minimum, and when he does come in and play, he plays more often than not like a top-four defenseman - he was a beast for us in the games he played last year and playoffs and stepped in like a frickin' champ. We're lucky to have him, and I hope he's back again.

I agree with all of this other than playing like a top-4.

I think he can be on any teams top 6 but I don't think he is much more than a 5-6 guy.

Still appreciate him and wouldn't be against retaining him.

[Leeman4Gilmour]

I'm not sure what is typical, but with 7 defenseman in the NHL, that leaves 8 in the AHL. And out of those 15, there doesn't appear to be a clear cut ECHL guy. It seems like a lot.

Including RFA's and Monahan, we have 24 professional forwards. There will be some PTO's I get it, but I don't think it's a stretch to speculate the Flames will be trying to trade a d-man for a forward.

I would trade Valimaki at this point. Reclamation project for reclamation project type trade.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Fricken Devils.

Flames were one pick away from getting Mercer in that draft.

1 pick away from Mercer, 1 pick away from Sillinger.

We're never meant to come into top 6 centers again, apparently.

[Harry Lime]

Defenseman usually take longer to develop, so I think that there is still decent value in valimaki. I mean, somehow Eric branstrom in Ottawa still is considered to have some value and he is way more far gone than valimaki.

The issue in Calgary is that he is likely to not get a chance for real minutes. That is not going to sit well with him. I think that a trade for a former first round forward, maybe D+2, is a good bet.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

1 pick away from Mercer, 1 pick away from Sillinger.

We're never meant to come into top 6 centers again, apparently.

Don't look back at the 2017 1st round....could have had one there.