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		|  07-25-2022, 08:32 AM | #2 |  
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		|  07-25-2022, 08:36 AM | #3 |  
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			no. People always say this about offensive defensemen who need to work on their defense, but it rarely ever happens. How many players have there been in the last 20 years who converted from F to D or vice versa? Byfuglien, Burns, and ...? It's always suggested online, but never happens.
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		|  07-25-2022, 08:41 AM | #4 |  
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			You see this pop up every time the Flames draft an offensive defenseman. Lots of posters said the same thing about Kylington.
 Creating offense from the backend is an entirely different skill set than creating offense as a forward
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		|  07-25-2022, 08:42 AM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by devo22  no. People always say this about offensive defensemen who need to work on their defense, but it rarely ever happens. How many players have there been in the last 20 years who converted from F to D or vice versa? Byfuglien, and ...? It's always suggested online, but never happens. |  
Burns of course.  Pysyk. K’Andre Miller.
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		|  07-25-2022, 08:50 AM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by GioforPM  Burns of course.  Pysyk. K’Andre Miller. |  
I don’t know anything about Pysyk, but Miller switched to defense when he was still playing high school. Very different situation than a professional player
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		|  07-25-2022, 08:56 AM | #7 |  
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			In a word, no.  In more words, the Flames would have to teach hm how to play the game all over again, starting in the pros.  Rarely leads to success.
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		|  07-25-2022, 08:59 AM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by bax  I don’t know anything about Pysyk, but Miller switched to defense when he was still playing high school. Very different situation than a professional player |  
Well, still playing elite hockey at that age though.  He switched and went right unto NTDP/USHL.  So junior equivalent.  
 
I agree with the whole premise that it’s rare.  And if it wasn’t done with Kylington, why Poirier?
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		|  07-25-2022, 09:10 AM | #9 |  
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			Do you remember when Phil Housley played center for a while?  Right around the same time Sergei Federov moved to D for the Wings.  Coaches were trying anything to score goals in those days.
		 
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		|  07-25-2022, 09:12 AM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by Derek Sutton  Do you remember when Phil Housley played center for a while?  Right around the same time Sergei Federov moved to D for the Wings.  Coaches were trying anything to score goals in those days. |  
Federov moved because of necessity and he was a genius player to boot. Housely’s move was a bust.
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		|  07-25-2022, 09:15 AM | #11 |  
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			Activating dmen into the attack is becoming more important. Why lose that value by trying to move him up front. The better route is to continue to work on his defense. If you can turn him into an adequate defender coupled with an elite offensive dman - you have a real gem. 
 No need to move him up.
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