[News] Tkachuk notifies Flames he won't sign long term (The Athletic)

[Flamesfan74]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Ya I’m starting to question my commitment as a STH. Had our tickets in the family since the team moved from Atlanta.

Between this and the arena debacle I think I’ve had enough.

I agree with you. I’ve had game pack tickets since ‘05. This is probably the first time I’ve given it a hard though about having them.

[1_Flames_Fan]

A St. Louis trade starts with Kyrou ++ and if not #### them!

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

https://twitter.com/user/status/1549834667502645248

This makes sense.

Chucky hears about Johnny's choice and then informs the Flames. Things around the Flames seem to have gone silent in recent days, likely because they're carefully negotiating these teams against each other.

Hopefully Tree nails this trade. This is his defining moment as GM of this team.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Dude has two cups and got a fat pay day. Dude is thrilled.

...Lindholm I bet is pretty friggin bummed.

Yeah, Lindholm lost the 2 best wingers he’s ever played with and his cousin all within 1 week. Honestly, I hope he asks for a trade too. If this organization doesn’t believe in rebuilds, then let the players force their hand.

Rebuild, find the next McDavid or the next Makar and build through the draft. Don’t rush the rebuild and then build your team through free agency. This is why Canadian teams never win Cups, our impatience and desire to win now leads to rushed rebuilds and mistakes.

[442scotty]

Good riddance loser

[Icon]

STL - Kyrou, ROR/Senko (cap), 1st - reasonable enough, like the idea of flipping ROR or Tarasenko at the deadline too.

VGK - Karlsson/Smith (cap), McNabb/Whitecloud (cap), 1st? - meh, boring, doubt they're interested anyway, they just traded Patches to get under the cap

FLA - I can't even figure out a way to sort out a trade with Florida, no 1st in the next 2 drafts, and they're right against the cap and the pieces they'd give up I don't see us wanting

NSH - Tolvanen, Jeannot, 1st - meh, don't hate it, don't love it

DAL - Kiviranta/Gurianov, Bourque, 1st - same as NSH


But all that said, I'm not getting my hopes up and expecting we trade him for a B-prospect & 2nd round pick.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Elkyiv

My 7 year old asked me the other day to return his JG jersey and get him a Tkachuk one. Kill me.

Might as well get him a Backlund or Coleman jersey

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by soreshins

You must have missed where we got absolutely spanked by the Oilers. Time for a change.

That’s because our D and goalie forgot everything about playing hockey that series for some reason.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Elkyiv

My 7 year old asked me the other day to return his JG jersey and get him a Tkachuk one. Kill me.

Sorry to hear, I always feel bad for the little ones when their fav players bail.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

You know who is probably bummed? Markstrom. If he didn't crap the bed, maybe all of this wouldn't be happening. Plus he signed here with winning in mind, not a rebuild.

I would wait and see. It will take some magic, but the Flames could make a recovery with the right moves.

Probably looking at a dip for a couple of seasons though.

Get Kyrou here, 2+ firsts in 2023, Coronato, Kerins, Pelletier, Poirier through the system?

Use some of that cap flexibility on the huge names available next free agency?

Could be back and better set up in 3 seasons.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

The worst part about this is we can't mock the Canucks for taking Juolevi over him in the draft anymore

Any form of an NHL player in return would still be a win.

[Buzzard]

Originally Posted by camm13

That's $15M in cap coming back in for two UFAS.

.. both post apex.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Hope this experience has though Brad Treliving valuable lessons.

I actually think Brad may be next.
How do you look this franchise/fan base in the face and not feel like you went wrong somewhere along the line.

[Willi Plett]

Originally Posted by chedder

Would have been more transparent to know before the draft. Imagine if both players told the Flames their intentions before draft day we'd be way better off than we are now.

Imagine a GM saying you need to be signed by the draft or we need to discuss moving you at the draft.

[Bonded]

I think Lindholm is the most valuable piece on the Flames

[Dude Where's Makar?]

Im crossing my fingers for Mercer and Holtz in a Devils trade.
Likely Bratt + 1st

[Roof-Daddy]

Hoping for Kyrou and thier 1st round pick. Maybe get a prospect thrown in too.

If it's Jersey then Bratt plus Holtz and their 2023 1st, hope the Devils #### the bed hard

[Matty81]

It's been said but respect to Tkachuk, at least he had the cahones to be transparent instead of being a little indecisive weasel up to the last minute.

Hope Tkachuk's list of teams he is willing to go to isn't too small or we could get absolutely destroyed on this deal.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Yeah, Lindholm lost the 2 best wingers he’s ever played with and his cousin all within 1 week. Honestly, I hope he asks for a trade too. If this organization doesn’t believe in rebuilds, then let the players force their hand.

Rebuild, find the next McDavid or the next Makar and build through the draft. Don’t rush the rebuild and then build your team through free agency. This is why Canadian teams never win Cups, our impatience and desire to win now leads to rushed rebuilds and mistakes.

Lindholm is probably the most valuable guy on the roster given he has 2 years of making less than $5m and is a top line centre. Him or Andersson I guess.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Icon

STL - Kyrou, ROR/Senko (cap), 1st - reasonable enough, like the idea of flipping ROR or Tarasenko at the deadline too.

VGK - Karlsson/Smith (cap), McNabb/Whitecloud (cap), 1st? - meh, boring, doubt they're interested anyway, they just traded Patches to get under the cap

FLA - I can't even figure out a way to sort out a trade with Florida, no 1st in the next 2 drafts, and they're right against the cap and the pieces they'd give up I don't see us wanting

NSH - Tolvanen, Jeannot, 1st - meh, don't hate it, don't love it

DAL - Kiviranta/Gurianov, Bourque, 1st - same as NSH


But all that said, I'm not getting my hopes up and expecting we trade him for a B-prospect & 2nd round pick.

I have no interest in any of those deals besides the Blues and if Dallas wants Tkachuk I want Robertson or they can FO.