2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[OILFAN #81]

Eliotte Friedman mentioned today that it wouldn't surprise him if both the Oilers and Flames were looking to sign Sonny Milano.

[Harry Lime]

Milano doesn't play defense, and there are better offense only players. Edmonton is all over this, but I don't think calgary would have interest other than driving up the price.

Calgary mo this year will 100% be defense first.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Milano doesn't play defense, and there are better offense only players. Edmonton is all over this, but I don't think calgary would have interest other than driving up the price.

Calgary mo this year will 100% be defense first.

Very true, but he would DAMN SURE play defense under Sutter. I have no doubt that playing here would change his game.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Very true, but he would DAMN SURE play defense under Sutter. I have no doubt that playing here would change his game.

I like the idea and he might prefer here due to better chance of getting ice time.

I thought he was decent last year and a bit of a pain to play against.

Or we can just drive the price up on the Oilers. I’m ok with that

[djsFlames]

With Sutter you don't have to worry about the make up of the player beforehand.

Look at the transformations he already made with players in 1 year.

I can see a kid who doesn't want somebody being stern or mean with him liking the prospect of no-defense hockey in Edmonton under pinnoccio though.

[Sandman]

He's a fantastic skater, he would be amazing if he would just shore up that side of his game....

[Braden]

After 10 min of reading this thread my new wishlist is :
Sign Tkachuk
Sign Kadri 7m x 5?
Sign Klingberg not sure what he would fetch

Make the cap work, picks to Move Lucic and Monahan (CBJ, I can dream) For some reason Im open to a Hanifin trade for picks/ prospects aswell

[Icon]

Originally Posted by Braden

After 10 min of reading this thread my new wishlist is :
Sign Tkachuk
Sign Kadri 7m x 5?
Sign Klingberg not sure what he would fetch

Make the cap work, picks to Move Lucic and Monahan (CBJ, I can dream) For some reason Im open to a Hanifin trade for picks/ prospects aswell

This would likely take trading Lucic, Monahan and Mangiapane... Possibly more.

Not saying that doesn't mean it isn't worth doing, but if it costs picks to move Monahan and Lucic I'd probably just pass, make bigger signings next summer

[Hey Connor, It's Mess]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Better than what has been put on display, especially by yourself. The mindless attacks on the player are weak and pathetic. This is a management issue, because it is something they are supposed to control. A failure in this regard lands on the manager's head, no one else. It's their purview and their sphere of control. Point the fingers where they should be pointed. The player is only exercising their rights and doing what is right for them. The fact the Flames surrendered the control is their fault, not the fault of the player.

LMAO get over it, this is the internet. How old are you? 70? Go be sanctimonious elsewhere. Part of the function of a message board is to vent.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

The mindless attacks on the player are weak and pathetic. This is a management issue, because it is something they are supposed to control. A failure in this regard lands on the manager's head, no one else. It's their purview and their sphere of control. Point the fingers where they should be pointed. The player is only exercising their rights and doing what is right for them. The fact the Flames surrendered the control is their fault, not the fault of the player.

Totally agree. This really sucks for the Flames both on the ice and optically, but I can't blame JG for simply wanting to try somewhere new, even if it may have backfired on him a little. There are a lot of unverified rumours and speculation, while some may be true, I think people are filling in the gaps to justify their anger.

I suspect there is some middle ground where JG could have been more courageous and clear, but I also suspect that Treliving wasn't taking no for an answer either and wasted a lot of time himself. Management should have done a lot better reading the situation over the past year or 2. Gaudreau was always a flight risk and the signs were always there from day 1. Maybe Gaudreau fouled up the last few weeks, but Treliving is the one who brought it to that point to begin with.

Be rationally angry at both sides I guess, but ultimately, it is Brad's job to look after the Flames, read situations, and plan accordingly - not Gaudreau's. He obviously failed to do that in this case.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess

LMAO get over it, this is the internet. How old are you? 70? Go be sanctimonious elsewhere. Part of the function of a message board is to vent.

Well credit where due then. He's an elite venter!

His demanding for excel spreadsheets from Bingo comment gave me some nice hearty laughter. I love uber serious folk on the internet sometimes.

They're just grappling with their incessant and unaddressed need to try to control and enforce the behaviors of people around them on THE least enforceable medium of communication that exists.

You might as well hit yourself over the head with a hammer and you would be doing something more worthwhile.

I do hope Lanny finds peace in these beautiful summer days though. I feel like there is good, calm and tolerant person under there somewhere. Deeeep, deep under there.

I bet he's a sweetie.

[Harry Lime]

Columbus now has just north of 2.3M to play with this season and has yet to sign Laine. His last contract had a cap hit of 6.75M and a QO of around 7.8Mish. If he signs an offer sheet, he would no longer be eligible for a trade out of Columbus.

Anything under 8.4M is a 1st and 3rd compensation to the losing team, and very difficult for Columbus to match.

At times Laine was absolutely dominant, and Sutter teaching him for a year could work wonders in terms of consistency. A line of Tkachuk - Lindholm - Laine would also be a lot to handle.

Just thinking out loud.

[rhino]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Columbus now has just north of 2.3M to play with this season and has yet to sign Laine. His last contract had a cap hit of 6.75M and a QO of around 7.8Mish. If he signs an offer sheet, he would no longer be eligible for a trade out of Columbus.

Anything under 8.4M is a 1st and 3rd compensation to the losing team, and very difficult for Columbus to match.

At times Laine was absolutely dominant, and Sutter teaching him for a year could work wonders in terms of consistency. A line of Tkachuk - Lindholm - Laine would also be a lot to handle.

Just thinking out loud.

Calgary doesn’t have the 3rd

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by rhino

Calgary doesn’t have the 3rd

Don’t think that didn’t disappoint me a bit when I found out.

I was fully on board the “offer sheet Laine for $10,503,719 x 7 for pure spite” train.

And I hate Laine.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by rhino

Calgary doesn’t have the 3rd

Plus I can't see many teams wanting to give up their 1st rounder for next year, considering the buzz around the quality of the draft.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

Plus I can't see many teams wanting to give up their 1st rounder for next year, considering the buzz around the quality of the draft.

Replacing Gaudreau with Laine on a team that won their division… how high quality a draft are we talking here? I suppose it is 20 years after the 03 draft why did I write that?

[flamesrule_kipper34]

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[FlamesAddiction]

I am not really sold on Laine due to the past rumours of attitude problems and wanting out of Winnipeg, but no arguing that he is a likely PPG in the NHL.

Just a thought, I don't think an offersheet is the way to go. Giving up a 1st in the Bedard draft is not ideal, and we have given up too many 1sts in general in recent years. BUT, maybe Columbus would accept trading down given their cap situation.

Would they accept Mangiapane for Laine? They would get a guy who is coming off a 35 goals season and is apparently close with their new prized possession in Gaudreau which may make signing him to a reasonable contract easier. The Flames would get a highly offensive player that could replace some of what they lost in Gaudreau, and more of a shooter which the Flames need more IMO.

Not that Columbus is looking to do anyone any favours, but they could more easily fit Mangiapane under their cap and would get back a player who can score. After signing Gaudreau, they probably would rather make a run for the playoffs than pick up draft picks if someone gave an offersheet.

Just a thought. Feel free to murder me with words.

[Hackey]

Want no part of giving up assets for Laine. Too much risk.

[GreenLantern2814]

It’s not about Laine.

It’s about the spite.