Kicking motion

[powderjunkie]

Maybe this already exists somewhere, but it would be great to have an online catalog of NHL video reviews and player suspension videos, like the hockeyfights site. NHLWheelOfJustice.com.

You could even have stats like how long the review took...I bet this is the longest ever review where they end up overturning the call on the ice?

[djsFlames]

The standard changes every day based on (probably) who's playing, who's looking at it, and how they're feeling at that particular moment. That's why this league is a gongshow.

Just look at that Kraken good goal. It was distinct, yet allowed. With Coleman it was really ambiguous. Which means not distinct/black and white. Looks as much a skating stride or stopping motion as it does a kick.

The insult to injury there is it was already going in too.

You even got Smith raising his arms like a little ####. A perfect back breaking goal soiled by some dooshes on the other side of the country.

[Roof-Daddy]

This pisses me off so much, but it can't be undone.

However, what I want is for those four #######s that overturned that Flames goal to give us some answers. I want them to watch clips of that Vegas goal and all the other goals that were called goals, and watch the Coleman goal and I want them to try to explain to us in front of a camera how they came to the conclusion they did. I want them put on the spot.

Corrupt, biased, pathetic pieces of garbage.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I don't know how many times I said it this season but I always knew if the Flames faced the Oilers in the playoffs they were going to have to overcome a team and the officiating to win. Unfortunately a key Flames goal was close enough that the NHL could intervene and alter the outcome of an elimination game.

Yep.

I said it before the series when it looked like it might happen, the only things that scared me about an oilers series were McDavid and the refs.

I shut game 1 off when it was 3-1 Flames, because despite the Flames jumping out to the early 3-0 lead you could see the tide start to turn right away. McDavid buzzing around literally every second shift, then he scores to make it 3-1. Then two shifts later he's buzzing around again and the Flames Dman gives him a bump, he falls to the ice and immediately the refs arm goes up.

That was it for me. I couldn't watch that garbage anymore. Lasted about 5 minutes.

[Jiffy Loob]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Maybe this already exists somewhere, but it would be great to have an online catalog of NHL video reviews and player suspension videos, like the hockeyfights site. NHLWheelOfJustice.com.

You could even have stats like how long the review took...I bet this is the longest ever review where they end up overturning the call on the ice?

this is brilliant - great idea!

[carmenshoes]

The whole idea of disallowing "kicked" goals is kind of stupid.

Lol remember the humboldt car bus. You might as well make it illegal to drive semi trucks because a semi truck might kill some. Lol while your at it make driving cars illegal because you can kill someone with a car, etc, etc.

You might as well make everything illegal because something "bad" might happen.

Give me a break.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by carmenshoes

The whole idea of disallowing "kicked" goals is kind of stupid.

Lol remember the humboldt car bus. You might as well make it illegal to drive semi trucks because a semi truck might kill some. Lol while your at it make driving cars illegal because you can kill someone with a car, etc, etc.

You might as well make everything illegal because something "bad" might happen.

Give me a break.

It isn’t any different than any other part of a players body other than their stick:

rule 78.5. Disallowed Goals – Apparent goals shall be disallowed by the Referee and the appropriate announcement made by the Public Address Announcer for the following reasons:
(i) When the puck has been directed, batted or thrown into the net by an attacking player other than with a stick. When this occurs, if it is deemed to be done deliberately, then the decision shall be NO GOAL. A goal cannot be scored when the puck has been deliberately batted with any part of the attacking player’s body into the net.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by carmenshoes

The whole idea of disallowing "kicked" goals is kind of stupid.

Lol remember the humboldt car bus. You might as well make it illegal to drive semi trucks because a semi truck might kill some. Lol while your at it make driving cars illegal because you can kill someone with a car, etc, etc.

You might as well make everything illegal because something "bad" might happen.

Give me a break.

Wow

[carmenshoes]

In soccer players can't use their hands during the game, end of story, expect the goalie which makes sense because the goalie needs to use his/her hands to stop the ball.

In hockey "kicking" the puck whatever a "kick" is in that case , is not outlawed in the game. There are situations when where the puck goes into the corner and players will battle for the puck. Sometimes a player will legally "kick" the puck to get it to a better position or to guide it the direction of this teammate by "kicking" it.

Heck a defenseman can "kick" the puck and make a "kick save".

Watch this nice "kick" save by Ryan McDonagh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU3sm0Ln5x0


Kicking the puck is not illegal. It's legal to "kick" the puck it always has been, ok a bicycle kick is outlawed I give the NHL that.

The NHL has NEVER declared the act of "kicking" a puck to be illegal.
The NHL has stated that if you "kick" a puck for a goal, that goal is disallowed.

Than you have to determine if it's a "distinct kicking motion" or whatever the rule says.


Now as for the next order of business for the NHL is to allow "kicked" puck stand as a goal. Expect bicycle kicks, a bicycle is basically a high stick it you foot.


Inclusion there's no good reason to disallow "kicked" goals. NHL should simply change the rule. Change the rule NHL.

[Scroopy Noopers]

^

…. In baseball you have to use the bat.

[carmenshoes]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

^

…. In baseball you have to use the bat.

Yes in baseball the batter uses the bat in the batters box.

What's your point?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by carmenshoes

Inclusion there's no good reason to disallow "kicked" goals. NHL should simply change the rule.

Clint Malarchuk would not agree.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Clint Malarchuk would not agree.

He wasn't kicked...

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by carmenshoes

Yes in baseball the batter uses the bat in the batters box.

What's your point?

That in hockey, you can only use your stick to score. Deliberately. Anything else used, deliberately, is no goal.

My main point is you’re ranting about nonsense.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Clint Malarchuk would not agree.

As was said, he wasn’t kicked. And since kicking is allowed in the crease just like everywhere else on the ice, the safety argument kind of goes out the window.

[Captain Otto]

Originally Posted by carmenshoes

The whole idea of disallowing "kicked" goals is kind of stupid.



Lol remember the humboldt car bus. You might as well make it illegal to drive semi trucks because a semi truck might kill some. Lol while your at it make driving cars illegal because you can kill someone with a car, etc, etc.



You might as well make everything illegal because something "bad" might happen.



Give me a break.

Cringiest post I've read in years. Yikes.

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[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

He wasn't kicked...

Way to miss the point.

If skaters were allowed to kick at the puck in the goal mouth, a lot more goalies would have various portions of their anatomy sliced.

Originally Posted by GioforPM

And since kicking is allowed in the crease just like everywhere else on the ice, the safety argument kind of goes out the window.

But kicking very rarely occurs in the crease, because at that point the only reason for a skater to touch the puck is to try to score, and he can only do that with his stick.

What you're asking for is open season for goalies to be attacked with knives when they're trying to freeze the puck.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

That in hockey, you can only use your stick to score. Deliberately. Anything else used, deliberately, is no goal.

My main point is you’re ranting about nonsense.

Well, that’s incorrect. You are allowed to deliberately use your foot to score - just not with a distinct kicking motion. You can deliberately angle your skate to score.

[Captain Otto]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Way to miss the point.

If skaters were allowed to kick at the puck in the goal mouth, a lot more goalies would have various portions of their anatomy sliced.



But kicking very rarely occurs in the crease, because at that point the only reason for a skater to touch the puck is to try to score, and he can only do that with his stick.

What you're asking for is open season for goalies to be attacked with knives when they're trying to freeze the puck.

That's a little dramatic.

Defenseman kick the puck all the time in the crease.

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[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Way to miss the point.

If skaters were allowed to kick at the puck in the goal mouth, a lot more goalies would have various portions of their anatomy sliced.



But kicking very rarely occurs in the crease, because at that point the only reason for a skater to touch the puck is to try to score, and he can only do that with his stick.

What you're asking for is open season for goalies to be attacked with knives when they're trying to freeze the puck.

Defencemen kick at the puck in the crease all the time and are not trying to score. If safety is concern that should be illegal.