06-19-2022, 10:53 AM
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I know it has been said in this thread before, but Woodcroft isn't going to finish out this contract before being fired.
If Todd McClelland, Ken Hitchcock, Dave Tippett couldnt fix this crew, no way Woodcroft can. Keeping pucks out their own net has always been the problem, and their GAA in the Stanley Cup playoffs has demonstrated that nothing has changed on that front.
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06-19-2022, 10:54 AM
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GOAT!
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Wish people would stop calling him the Ted Lasso of hockey.
Ted Lasso good. Jay Woodcroft no good.
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06-19-2022, 10:58 AM
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#43
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
Wish people would stop calling him the Ted Lasso of hockey.
Ted Lasso good. Jay Woodcroft no good.
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He is Ted Lasso season 2.
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06-19-2022, 11:34 AM
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#44
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Originally Posted by shadowlord
I know it has been said in this thread before, but Woodcroft isn't going to finish out this contract before being fired.
If Todd McClelland, Ken Hitchcock, Dave Tippett couldnt fix this crew, no way Woodcroft can. Keeping pucks out their own net has always been the problem, and their GAA in the Stanley Cup playoffs has demonstrated that nothing has changed on that front.
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He’s just a puppet for Lowe and Holland.
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06-19-2022, 11:53 AM
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#45
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
In other words, they tried to talk to the other coaches available and they all hid.
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06-19-2022, 12:59 PM
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#46
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Does it really matter if it’s 3 years or 10 years or 1 year? The Oilers were six points out of the playoffs, Woodcroft comes in and they end up getting to the west final. Woodcroft has been around the league for what, 20 years? Exceptionally good results in the AHL, he knows the entire team, and he seems to have buy in from the superstars. The fact that anyone thinks this is a bad idea is quite frankly hilarious.
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06-19-2022, 01:11 PM
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#47
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Commie Referee
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It's a pretty easy signing. He did well, they can't let him go.
But just throwing 29 and 97 out there over and over again isn't great coaching. We'll see if either of those two get hurt and they face some adversity what he'll do.
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06-19-2022, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by metallicat
Does it really matter if it’s 3 years or 10 years or 1 year? The Oilers were six points out of the playoffs, Woodcroft comes in and they end up getting to the west final. Woodcroft has been around the league for what, 20 years? Exceptionally good results in the AHL, he knows the entire team, and he seems to have buy in from the superstars. The fact that anyone thinks this is a bad idea is quite frankly hilarious.
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I don't think it's 'buy in'. He just plays the heck out them. And why not?
Why wouldn't those two like that scenario?
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06-19-2022, 01:13 PM
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#49
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
He’s just a puppet for Lowe and Holland.
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06-19-2022, 01:13 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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It'll be funny watching the fans turn on him halfway through the season when the team is struggling to stay in a playoff spot.
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06-19-2022, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by metallicat
Does it really matter if it’s 3 years or 10 years or 1 year? The Oilers were six points out of the playoffs, Woodcroft comes in and they end up getting to the west final.
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Look up Mike Smith's save percentage in April vs. any other month. That is what put them in the playoffs to begin with.
Then look up LA's injured list during that series. That is what put them in the second round, and only barely.
The Flames self-destructed. The second-best defensive team in the league all season long, including the first round of the playoffs, just stopped checking – I suspect because they knew the officials were going to call penalties on anything that resembled defensive hockey. Sure, you can't give the Oilers McPowerPlays, but you can't let them run their McPowerPlay 5-on-5, either. If those are your choices, you have nothing to lose by playing your game – but the Flames never did.
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06-19-2022, 01:27 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by metallicat
Does it really matter if it’s 3 years or 10 years or 1 year? The Oilers were six points out of the playoffs, Woodcroft comes in and they end up getting to the west final. Woodcroft has been around the league for what, 20 years? Exceptionally good results in the AHL, he knows the entire team, and he seems to have buy in from the superstars. The fact that anyone thinks this is a bad idea is quite frankly hilarious.
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Um, no. Woodcroft had less than a 0.600 winning percentage in the AHL, which is pretty pedestrian. He won a championship in 2021, but it was a seven-team tournament in which Bakersfield played a total of six games. You read that right: Bakersfield won a Calder Cup by playing only SIX GAMES (4-2).
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06-19-2022, 01:31 PM
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#53
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
I don't think it's 'buy in'. He just plays the heck out them. And why not?
Why wouldn't those two like that scenario?
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It's a predictable pattern. The Oilers also got early "buy in" under McLellan and Tippet, but history shows that it does not last. They will turn on Woodcroft, too.
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06-19-2022, 01:41 PM
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#54
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Norm!
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Predictions for when da Conna and Pissy turn on him for demanding they play defensively responsible hockey for 80 games.
I'd say game 40.
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06-19-2022, 01:48 PM
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Easy choice for the Oilers. Not necessarily the best choice, but without question the easiest.
Kind of like re-signing Smith after last year was the easy choice.
I do like the fact that the next three years of Connor McDavid’s prime will be under his watch. Let’s go.
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06-19-2022, 02:56 PM
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#56
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Yeah you guys are right. They shouldn’t have signed the guy.
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06-19-2022, 04:15 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Predictions for when da Conna and Pissy turn on him for demanding they play defensively responsible hockey for 80 games.
I'd say game 40.
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My theory is they pretended to be "engaged" over 200 feet long enough to get the baby poo soft nice guy coach inked for 3 years and now they can just live the easy life, coast and go back to bagging PP points.
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06-19-2022, 04:36 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
3 months of results doesn't have a great track record of converting to long term solutions.
Oilers, nor anybody else know anything about Woodcroft's shelf life as a non-interim HC.
But sure, let's go and lock ourselves into 3 years.
I get the sense of a coaching version of the Koskinen signing.
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His success also coincided with getting an additional 40 goal player dropped on to the team. It will be interesting to see how he does if basically the same team comes back minus Kane.
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06-19-2022, 05:04 PM
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#59
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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He won’t make it to February.
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06-19-2022, 08:28 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by metallicat
Yeah you guys are right. They shouldn’t have signed the guy.
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Haha... nice strawman.
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