Connor Zary
Yan Kuznetsov
Jeremie Poirier
Rory Kerins!
Ilya Solovyov
Leaving Ryan Francis, Jake Boltmann and Daniil Chechelev left.
This is great news. The system needs all the skilled bodies it can get. Next up on the list is Francis. They have until June 1st to sign him and I would think he's clearly on the radar. Boltmann and Chechelev could both earn their contracts, but the Flames have more time to sign both. This is the type of draft year the Flames needed after the poor showing 2018. Welcome to the Flames Rory. I hope you fill the net next year in Stockton and then in Calgary in the near future after that!
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If you use the era of the Treliving draft (this will start an argument again, but I see it as 2015+) ..
The Flames have the highest number of games played of any team in the league for picks not in the first round, and the second highest games played / number of picks (not in the first round).
I bring that up because of the late round pick success discussion that we've had.
Proof is certainly in the games played.
Sum of NHL Totals GP
Calgary 1010
New Jersey 961
Columbus 941
Carolina 937
Tampa Bay 847
Los Angeles 828
Boston 799
Arizona 713
San Jose 658
Nashville 625
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If you use the era of the Treliving draft (this will start an argument again, but I see it as 2015+) ..
The Flames have the highest number of games played of any team in the league for picks not in the first round, and the second highest games played / number of picks (not in the first round).
I bring that up because of the late round pick success discussion that we've had.
I'm get what you're saying, but not completely following you here boss. I don't mind you piling up the numbers for players outside the 1st round, but then saying that is later round pick success doesn't seem consistent. I would call a later round pick the 4th and after, and that may even be a little generous as some of those picks are still from the first half of the draft (mid-point now being pick 112, or the middle of the 4th round). The numbers are really on the back of four players (three 2nd rounders) from two drafts (although I suspect you might be counting Fox in our numbers too?). Just a little bit of a nitpick.
I'm get what you're saying, but not completely following you here boss. I don't mind you piling up the numbers for players outside the 1st round, but then saying that is later round pick success doesn't seem consistent. I would call a later round pick the 4th and after, and that may even be a little generous as some of those picks are still from the first half of the draft (mid-point now being pick 112, or the middle of the 4th round). The numbers are really on the back of four players (three 2nd rounders) from two drafts (although I suspect you might be counting Fox in our numbers too?). Just a little bit of a nitpick.
Honestly call it what you want.
Bader had the success of pick update today and a 2nd round pick has a 29.5% chance of playing and a 2.4% chance of being a star.
The Flames in this era drafted the following in the 2nd round ...
That's three impact players in what 5 years? They only had 5 2nd rounders in this era and hit on three of them in above average roles, with Kuznetsov still in the pipeline (unlikely to be impact).
That's a huge hit rate.
And why the hell wouldn't Fox count? I get the argument that if you trade a pick to a team you can't really use who they pick as the result because it's a different team spending draft capital, but the Flames stepped up and drafted a Norris winner with their pick. That's drafting. What happens after is unrelated.
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And why the hell wouldn't Fox count? I get the argument that if you trade a pick to a team you can't really use who they pick as the result because it's a different team spending draft capital, but the Flames stepped up and drafted a Norris winner with their pick. That's drafting. What happens after is unrelated.
yeah about the only contrary opinion I could see is if really the whole league knew the player was only going to play with one team, and therefore his reason for falling was entirely due to an external factor of what was otherwise a consensus first rounder (and I don't think that was quite the story with Fox)
either way by the time they took him they can't be faulted and definitely qualifies as per your exercise
