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Old 02-14-2022, 04:19 PM   #8621
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Oh man I would love Chabot.
Yeah, that would be a different story. Not great Defensive metrics but thrown to the wolves with tough matchups on a garbage team.
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Old 02-14-2022, 04:23 PM   #8622
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Do the Flames really need another D? We have Stone as the 7th. And then the farms looking alright too. Never was a big fan of Chiarot so I'm glad that's done with.
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Old 02-14-2022, 04:24 PM   #8623
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Steinberg asked Friedman if the Flames could revisit Chiarot. Friedman speculated (he cautioned that he hasn't talked to Treliving yet) that Chiarot's price no longer makes sense for the Flames.

He said there are a lot of d-men on the market and if the Flames were to pay another 1st, it wouldn't be for a rental.
So that only leaves one name if they want term, Jacob Chychrun?
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Old 02-14-2022, 04:35 PM   #8624
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Do the Flames really need another D? We have Stone as the 7th. And then the farms looking alright too. Never was a big fan of Chiarot so I'm glad that's done with.
I don't know cause I'm comfortable with any of Stone, Valimakj or Mackey drawing in if needed.

We're fine. We're more than fine.
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Old 02-14-2022, 04:37 PM   #8625
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Unless they're trading Valimaki and a cap hit off of their roster, I don't know if there's much of a fit for another depth D man. I really don't think they need to be tinkering with the D corps right now.

Good news is they have a long ways to go until deadline day to decide these things.

Just happy about today's events.
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Old 02-14-2022, 07:34 PM   #8626
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I like that Toffoli is here now. Give it the month to see if Monahan and Dube can be revived, either with him or with whoever drops down, and if they still suck then there’s time to make a big splash on a big C. Dump the entire futures on a guy who can threaten to be Lindholm or better.

If Toffoli is the right piece, and the bottom six starts working again then Monahan and Dube might have more value when you then trade everything for a great C at the deadline.

It’s really a no lose deal as long as Toffoli doesn’t turn into Brouwer/Neal V3.
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Old 02-14-2022, 07:35 PM   #8627
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I was watching Oilers/islanders last week and thought although a total long shot, Chara would be such an awesome addition at the deadline for us.
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Old 02-14-2022, 07:37 PM   #8628
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Old 02-14-2022, 07:38 PM   #8629
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Getting "Anywhere but Canada" vibes outta Claude lol
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Old 02-14-2022, 07:47 PM   #8630
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When I look at the D, I do see a lack of playoff experience throughout. Hanifin and Andersson each have 15 games, Tanev has 33 games (17 of them in 2020 with the 'nucks), Kylington has 0, Gudbranson has 19 (7 of those in his rookie season with the Panthers), Zadorov has 33, Stone has 6, Mackey and Val have 0. From a GM's perspective, you can guarantee they will pick somebody up with some experience, despite the fact that most fans would be happy standing pat.

Does Gio help with experience? Probably not, as he's only played 23 games, and his performance in the playoffs has been spotty at best. Sounds like there could be a bidding war too, driving up the price to aquire to him.

Whoever lands Klingberg (it won't be us) will be getting a beast-he has 30 points in his last 39 playoff games (he has 34pts in 52 games overall).
This was my thoughts on depth on D. I don't think it's a big need, but we all know there will be some kind of trade to bring in playoff experience on D. Not sure where they will slot in, or who might be sacrificed.
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Old 02-14-2022, 07:50 PM   #8631
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And just to put a grain of salt on the rumour, it is coming from an Avs reporter and not a Philly reporter. So I could see this story making the rounds in an attempt to get the Avs to up their offer when really Giroux will only waive for the Avs.

"Oh you better make sure this deal works, or we are definitely sending Giroux to your division rival!"

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Regarding Ben Chiarot-it really wouldn't be the end of the world if we aquired this guy, he's a top-4 D all day long. He's not the shiny prize that a Chychrun or Klingberg would be, but he's evolved and rounded out his game to become an excellent shutdown guy, who can ride shotgun with the offensive-minded guys. He's huge, at 6'3" 230lbs, throws his weight around, and moves the puck well. He's capable in the offensive zone, and owns a bomb of a shot. He wins battles in the corner and in front of the net, and is a top shot-blocker. If we pick him up, hopefully he displaces Zadorov and not Kylington-but he's a Sutter player for sure.
My thoughts on Chiarot.
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Jarnkrok next please and thank you!
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Old 02-14-2022, 08:13 PM   #8634
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Not sure what the fancy stats say about Chariot this season, but every time I've watched him play this season (not a ton) he's been a tire fire. Not in a big rush to trade for him at all, especially if rumors about Montreal asking about a 1st rounder for him.....woof.
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Old 02-14-2022, 09:57 PM   #8635
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What do you think one Jarnkrok would cost us?
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Old 02-14-2022, 10:03 PM   #8636
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What do you think one Jarnkrok would cost us?
Probably a 2nd round pick and an ok prospect?

Can't see it being much more than that, but you never know.
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Old 02-15-2022, 06:27 AM   #8637
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Jarnkrok would be cool to have for sure. It would be sad to see him walk in the offseason because he's a guy I'd want sticking around.

As far as depth acquisitions go, I think the Staals, either Eric or Marc or both, would add a lot of experience, size and leadership. Marc might cost a mid pick.
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Old 02-15-2022, 06:53 AM   #8638
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Other then a depth defensemen - I think the Flames are done.
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Old 02-15-2022, 07:07 AM   #8639
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I think the flames could use a depth forward more than a depth Dman
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Serivali mentioned the Flames were in on Hagel in Chicago prior to the Toffoli deal
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