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Old 02-14-2022, 10:54 AM   #201
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Flames still have all our top prospects, and two 2nd round draft picks in 2022.

I really like this move. It's not an "omg we stole him" sort of thing, but its a fair price for fair return.

Good stuff, Tree.

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Has to be 2022 1st, right?!!
It is, and it's also top-10 protected.

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Old 02-14-2022, 10:55 AM   #202
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Flames still have the two seconds.
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Old 02-14-2022, 10:55 AM   #203
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So how much cap space to add do we still have?
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Old 02-14-2022, 10:55 AM   #204
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Toffoli - Backlund - Mangiapane

I like it.
Toffoli is RW, even better.

It will be either Mangiapane-Backlund-Toffoli, with Coleman moving to Monahan’s line or Lucic-Monahan-Toffoli with Dube moving down beside Ruzicka and Lewis (which I think actually would be pretty good).
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Old 02-14-2022, 10:55 AM   #205
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Old 02-14-2022, 10:55 AM   #206
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Felt like half those goals were vs the Canucks lol.

Guy is a finisher, doesn't mess around. With rumours circulating that we'd have to give up Monahan, Dube or Valimaki I can't believe we got him so cheap.
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Old 02-14-2022, 10:55 AM   #207
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McDavid to Calgary for Brett Ritchie and a 7th
LOL, don't ruin your credibility in the same day! Give it a week or two!
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Old 02-14-2022, 10:55 AM   #208
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I do find it interesting how HF Boards went from "Habs only trade Toffoli if it's Pelletier + 1st, no reason to rush a trade" to "Flames got fleeced"
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Old 02-14-2022, 10:55 AM   #209
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It will be 2023 1st, if the Flames protect their 2022 1st, if it ends up being top 10.
Yeah I still think this is a very bizarre move from us. If we somehow collapse and get a top 10 pick this year that triggers protection, we will most certainly be awful the following year and giving up a pick in a way better draft.

But, such a strange thing to complain about as it seems to be quite unlikely.
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Old 02-14-2022, 10:55 AM   #210
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Old 02-14-2022, 10:56 AM   #211
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Good good. You've only got one year with Johnny at this current deal. Gotta take advantage of that.
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Old 02-14-2022, 10:56 AM   #212
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Old 02-14-2022, 10:56 AM   #213
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One thing too, if Toffoli plays with Mony and they end up getting back the 67s chemistry, it essentially becomes adding a good RW and C.
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Taffoli moves to a team with eight wins to a team where one goalie has eight shutouts.
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I like Toffoli but still a steep price for a career 50 point guy who will be 30 when the playoffs start. Certainly don't think it's a steal of a trade.

More importantly this likely means no big upgrade at C and we are riding with Backs as the 2nd line C.

I've said for years this team can be a legit Cup contender if Backlund was the clear 3rd line C but unfortunately that's still not the case.
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Feels like all lines are working except for Dube-Monahan-Ritchie, so makes sense he'd start in place of Ritchie.
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Old 02-14-2022, 10:57 AM   #218
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A right-handed winger who scores? Is this real life?
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I think all in all it’s a fair price. Hate to be the Debbie Downer but this isn’t the same Toffoli from the past. I think they’re getting a decent 2nd liner here and more of a Sutter player which is good, though personally I wished that first was used on a guy with more offensive upside. Not a complaint, as I think it was fair, but I’m hoping for more offensively as that will still be a problem in the playoffs where skill and determination are both needed. Toffoli has the determination. Not sure he has the high end skill this team still needs.
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Old 02-14-2022, 10:57 AM   #220
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wonder what this means for the 2 PP units- I get that 23 might be the odd man out, but everyone on PP2 serves a role (we need a C for example)- might they go to 4 forwards on PP2?
The only thing is Monahan plays bumper and I would think Toffoli plays one of the outside spots on the power play. Unless perhaps you move Lindholm to Monahan’s spot and Toffoli to Lindholm’s.
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