01-27-2022, 05:23 PM
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Franchise Player
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Yeah, but my point is that it would have been a lot better to simply leave any mention of the undeserving duo out of it.
Raise the bar, among the media types (instead of perpetuating it).
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01-28-2022, 07:36 AM
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#22
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Oakville, ON
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Perhaps an odd way of looking at it but I don't really want him to win the Hart....Will just further drive up the price
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02-04-2022, 02:59 PM
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#24
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I particularly enjoyed typing out the phrase "lottery-bound Edmonton duo."
What do you think? Gaudreau for Hart?
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I think the chances of Gaudreau winning the Hart is about the same as Edmonton winning the draft lottery.
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02-04-2022, 03:42 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Haparanda
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudoreality
I think the chances of Gaudreau winning the Hart is about the same as Edmonton winning the draft lottery.
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So, pretty high?
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02-04-2022, 03:42 PM
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#26
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Alberta
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Speaking of Johnny for the Hart, Bet365 doesn't have any odds for him winning it, but has every other player in the top 50. I think it's obvious they know its a slam-dunk bet!
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02-05-2022, 01:31 PM
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#27
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First Line Centre
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Johnny for Selke?
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02-05-2022, 03:35 PM
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#28
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With the second half of the season back end loaded with home games Johnny could really go on a tear.
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02-05-2022, 09:40 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Johnny primed for a mega season with the remaining schedule! Can’t say I’ve ever been this excited about the second half of a season!!
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02-06-2022, 10:40 AM
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#30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude Where's Makar?
Speaking of Johnny for the Hart, Bet365 doesn't have any odds for him winning it, but has every other player in the top 50. I think it's obvious they know its a slam-dunk bet! 
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They have him at 41-1
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02-06-2022, 01:05 PM
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#31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
Johnny primed for a mega season with the remaining schedule! Can’t say I’ve ever been this excited about the second half of a season!!
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All star breaks haven’t been kind to us lately.
I’m firmly pessimistic lol.
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02-06-2022, 01:48 PM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weitz
They have him at 41-1
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Ya that just came up in the last 12 hours.
Trust me, for two solid days he was nowhere to be found on that site.
I now have him parlayed with a Joe Burrows MVP small wager
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02-07-2022, 09:34 AM
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#33
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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02-07-2022, 09:55 AM
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Wow, he has Matty ranked higher than Ovi.
Flames 1st line is seriously killing it right now.
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02-07-2022, 11:46 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
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Sorry. What does GSVA represent?
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02-07-2022, 01:53 PM
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#36
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
Sorry. What does GSVA represent?
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Game Score Value Added, a wins above replacement style model that Dom from The Athletic uses.
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Game Score is a linear weight model with the weights for each stat within it being derived according to the frequency of goals occurring from them and are as such:
Goals: 0.75
Primary Assists: 0.7
Secondary Assists: 0.55
Shots: 0.075
Blocks: 0.05
Penalty Differential: 0.15
Faceoff Differential: 0.01
5-on-5 Corsi Differential: 0.05
5-on-5 Goal Differential: 0.15
It uses data from each player’s last three seasons, with each component weighted by recency and regressed to the mean individually. That means that the weight for each prior season is different for goals than it is for shots or blocks (and different for forwards and defencemen), as is the regression factor. On top of that, there’s an age adjustment (using methods outlined here) performed at the start of each year that slowly lessens until the end of the season, as well as a small usage adjustment that factors in a player’s teammates and competition based on 5-on-5 Game Score.
From there, each player has a projection for each component going forward and that’s plugged into the Game Score formula to get a projected Game Score going forward. That’s then transformed into a wins above replacement rate (with replacement level being the 372nd forward and 186th defenceman) to create Game Score Value Added, or GSVA. That value is added up for each team based on the players in their starting lineup, and voila: team strength projections.
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02-07-2022, 01:57 PM
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#37
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Calgary
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Sorry still not over how Markstrom was passed over for the all-star game. Felt this way before I even looked at the NHL leaderboards. Now I am even more perplexed.. Sorry off topic
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02-07-2022, 02:50 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by talladega.25
Sorry still not over how Markstrom was passed over for the all-star game. Felt this way before I even looked at the NHL leaderboards. Now I am even more perplexed.. Sorry off topic
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I don't get too worked about it because it is largely due to having to have a member from each team represented, which then causes this type of stuff.
Ultimately once you orient yourself to the fact that the All Star game simply doesn't matter, and it's audience if mainly kids, then you become more OK with it all.
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02-07-2022, 02:50 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
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Plus I'd rather have Markstrom rest.
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02-07-2022, 08:38 PM
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I initially scoffed at this thread; however, I heard the falls on the radio today, and in listening to them about some of Johnny’s stats, I started to change my mind a bit.
It will be interesting to see if his game gets any traction in the larger hockey media. I would still think it is a stretch that he wins, but still lots of hockey to be played.
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