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TheoFleury · 02-02-2022, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by timbit

Yep, Calgary did a great job in protecting assets.

They had a poor collection of assets lol. That's why Vegas took the pending UFA instead of dipping into the pile of garbage

That's the funniest thing I've read all day haha

Groot · 02-02-2022, 07:29 PM

I was just thinking to myself, "I sure wish I could revisit the exact same conversation that occurred around Eichel for months" and low and behold here we are. Awesome...

TheoFleury · 02-02-2022, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Groot

I was just thinking to myself, "I sure wish I could revisit the exact same conversation that occurred around Eichel for months" and low and behold here we are. Awesome...

Being a fan of the flames is pretty much discussing the same 5 or 6 things in perpetuity though

It's pretty bad when the choking early 90s seems like a good time most years in comparison

Jiri Hrdina · 02-02-2022, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheoFleury

Being a fan of the flames is pretty much discussing the same 5 or 6 things in perpetuity though

It's pretty bad when the choking early 90s seems like a good time most years in comparison

It doesn't have to be that way.
Some of us enjoy it and find interesting things to discuss.
Others choose to wallow in negativity and repeat the same tired complaints.
Which is their right.
But man what a boring and sad place to be.
And frankly I don't have a lot of time for people who try to drag others into their negative space.

GreenLantern2814 · 02-02-2022, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Do tell. What was your imaginary offer?

Mangiapane
Valimaki
Coronato
Zary
Pelletier
Wolf
1st, ‘22
2nd, ‘23

Not a one of those assets would be more valuable in the pursuit of a Stanley cup over the next 5 years as a collective core of Eichel, Gaudreau, Lindholm and Tkachuk.

When you acquire Eichel, you give Gaudreau and Tkachuk a plausible reason to stay. You have a coach who’s won two titles on the last ten years, you have Vezina level goaltending from Markstrom, and the defense can get you the puck.

You can roll four stars across two lines.

I also would be trading 1sts and 2nds every year for actual NHL talent, rather than hoping some kid is going to be ready to play a significant role in the post season at 20.

The fans would rage.

But the core would be Eichel, Gaudreau, Lindholm and Tkachuk up front, Markstrom in goal, with a solid blue line and Darryl behind the bench.

Let’s go.

djsFlames · 02-02-2022, 08:27 PM

How are we still speculating packages for Eichel months after the trade?

GioforPM · 02-02-2022, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Mangiapane
Valimaki
Coronato
Zary
Pelletier
Wolf
1st, ‘22
2nd, ‘23

Not a one of those assets would be more valuable in the pursuit of a Stanley cup over the next 5 years as a collective core of Eichel, Gaudreau, Lindholm and Tkachuk.

When you acquire Eichel, you give Gaudreau and Tkachuk a plausible reason to stay. You have a coach who’s won two titles on the last ten years, you have Vezina level goaltending from Markstrom, and the defense can get you the puck.

You can roll four stars across two lines.

I also would be trading 1sts and 2nds every year for actual NHL talent, rather than hoping some kid is going to be ready to play a significant role in the post season at 20.

The fans would rage.

But the core would be Eichel, Gaudreau, Lindholm and Tkachuk up front, Markstrom in goal, with a solid blue line and Darryl behind the bench.

Let’s go.

A. Buffalo wanted Tuch, not Mangiapane.
B. You need to dump more cap.

bigrangy · 02-02-2022, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Mangiapane
Valimaki
Coronato
Zary
Pelletier
Wolf
1st, ‘22
2nd, ‘23

Not a one of those assets would be more valuable in the pursuit of a Stanley cup over the next 5 years as a collective core of Eichel, Gaudreau, Lindholm and Tkachuk.

When you acquire Eichel, you give Gaudreau and Tkachuk a plausible reason to stay. You have a coach who’s won two titles on the last ten years, you have Vezina level goaltending from Markstrom, and the defense can get you the puck.

You can roll four stars across two lines.

I also would be trading 1sts and 2nds every year for actual NHL talent, rather than hoping some kid is going to be ready to play a significant role in the post season at 20.

The fans would rage.

But the core would be Eichel, Gaudreau, Lindholm and Tkachuk up front, Markstrom in goal, with a solid blue line and Darryl behind the bench.

Let’s go.

Now let’s take a package from there and go get Barzal or Larkin or something like that. Wouldn’t even be opposed to a Hanifin upgrade but I’m not sure what’s out there.

GioforPM · 02-02-2022, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrangy

Now let’s take a package from there and go get Barzal or Larkin or something like that. Wouldn’t even be opposed to a Hanifin upgrade but I’m not sure what’s out there.

Barzal or Larkin? Not being traded.

TheoFleury · 02-02-2022, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

It doesn't have to be that way.
Some of us enjoy it and find interesting things to discuss.
Others choose to wallow in negativity and repeat the same tired complaints.
Which is their right.
But man what a boring and sad place to be.
And frankly I don't have a lot of time for people who try to drag others into their negative space.

Everyone has their own path for sure

Time is funny

One day it's sunshine

One day it's rain

I guess it's the days in between that define us

sketchyt · 02-02-2022, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheoFleury

Everyone has their own path for sure

Time is funny

One day it's sunshine

One day it's rain

I guess it's the days in between that define us

Even by your standards this is pretty cringeworthy.

mennoknight · 02-02-2022, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheoFleury

Everyone has their own path for sure

Time is funny

One day it's sunshine

One day it's rain

I guess it's the days in between that define us

Guys, I think this might be the real Theo posting this.

dino7c · 02-02-2022, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheoFleury

After 4 years of building BT shouldn't have been able to assemble a comparable team... is that what you are saying?

Face it. If BT was the GM of Vegas, they'd be Seattle

Uh, with better geography Brad would have Kadri, Stone , and Brown

Jiri Hrdina · 02-02-2022, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Mangiapane
Valimaki
Coronato
Zary
Pelletier
Wolf
1st, ‘22
2nd, ‘23

Not a one of those assets would be more valuable in the pursuit of a Stanley cup over the next 5 years as a collective core of Eichel, Gaudreau, Lindholm and Tkachuk.

When you acquire Eichel, you give Gaudreau and Tkachuk a plausible reason to stay. You have a coach who’s won two titles on the last ten years, you have Vezina level goaltending from Markstrom, and the defense can get you the puck.

You can roll four stars across two lines.

I also would be trading 1sts and 2nds every year for actual NHL talent, rather than hoping some kid is going to be ready to play a significant role in the post season at 20.

The fans would rage.

But the core would be Eichel, Gaudreau, Lindholm and Tkachuk up front, Markstrom in goal, with a solid blue line and Darryl behind the bench.

Let’s go.

And what if they say no

Gaskal · 02-02-2022, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

And what if they say no

Hypnosis.

GreenLantern2814 · 02-02-2022, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

And what if they say no

They turn down eight pieces, including five 1sts, plus a goalie prospect, in favour of four?

I buy they just liked one package over the other straight across - Mangiapane + Zary vs Tuch/Krebs.

I don’t think they would’ve turned down twice the haul.

It hardly matters at this point.

Jiri Hrdina · 02-02-2022, 10:17 PM

I agree it hardly matters
Yet you keep bringing it up

Heavy Jack · 02-02-2022, 10:24 PM

Eichel discussion around what could/should have happened is pointless at this point and honestly can’t we be happy with having the current best 200 foot line in the game right now?? Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk is playing like Marchand - Bergeron - Pastarnak right now and we should be loving every second of it.

This team is a Toffoli type acquisition away from being extremely scary especially if Backlund has his customary 2nd half surge and Coleman finds his playoff swagger. This team is building incredible layers and the Gudbranson moment with O’Brien and Coleman’s moment with Crouse and turning it into a mega hit and 4-2 clincher just speaks volumes about how Sutter has this team thinking. Incredible to watch so enjoy it!! Who gives a #%^* about Eichel?

Ragnar · 02-02-2022, 10:29 PM

Kessel please. Perhaps a buy low situation with his current cold streak, but still a super dangerous player in the O-zone. He would be a huge upgrade on Dube/Ritchie on the 3rd line and PP2.

GioforPM · 02-02-2022, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragnar

Kessel please. Perhaps a buy low situation with his current cold streak, but still a super dangerous player in the O-zone. He would be a huge upgrade on Dube/Ritchie on the 3rd line and PP2.

He played great on a third line in Pitt.