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Old 11-16-2021, 10:18 PM   #161
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A win is a win be it in regulation or overtime, but a loss isn't a 'loss' because it happened overtime?

The Flames have won exactly as many games as they have lost. That's a fact and it's precisely that binary. Loser point be dammed.
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Go cry to Gary and stop ruining the PGT

3 on 3 and shootouts are a novelty and treated as such
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Old 11-16-2021, 10:19 PM   #162
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I'm sure you were on here saying the Flames should have made the playoffs last season
I'm pretty damn sure every Flames fan was saying that last year.
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Old 11-16-2021, 10:20 PM   #163
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Go cry to Gary and stop ruining the PGT

3 on 3 and shootouts are a novelty and treated as such
Life was better when I had you on ignore a couple years ago.
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Old 11-16-2021, 10:23 PM   #164
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Life was better when I had you on ignore a couple years ago.
Put me on ignore,

.656 is not .500


And I know your post history, zero chance you were arguing the Flames should have made the playoffs last season. You are just trying to spin things as negative as possible as usual.

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Old 11-16-2021, 10:23 PM   #165
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21 points is the second most in the West. I'll take it.
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Old 11-16-2021, 10:26 PM   #166
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I'd like to see Ruzicka instead of Richardson as the 4C
I can see him or Pelletier being the next call up depending on need
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Old 11-16-2021, 10:26 PM   #167
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A win is a win be it in regulation or overtime, but a loss isn't a 'loss' because it happened overtime?

The Flames have won exactly as many games as they have lost. That's a fact and it's precisely that binary. Loser point be dammed.
Man, I tell you...

Feels pretty good to cheer for a team that's on pace for 41 wins + 41 losses for 107 points, because that math checks out.

If regular season OT was even strength 5-on-5 like it is in the Playoffs, you might have a point. But it's 3-on-3, which literally has no place in Playoff hockey, so as long as these "loser" points are contributing to the Flames making the playoffs, that's all that matters.
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Old 11-16-2021, 10:38 PM   #168
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I wonder if we can get Gaskal to do an OTLATL?
I'm sure their would be heaps of Oilers salt about loser points!
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Old 11-16-2021, 10:38 PM   #169
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The classic win-loss vs point % argument. Not sure why there is even an argument because the NHL is a points based league. It is too bad the Flames didn’t have a little more OT luck because a 10-3-3 record looks so much nicer than 8-3-5
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Old 11-16-2021, 10:41 PM   #170
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Flames are:

- very competitive; in every game
- dealing really well with a very difficult schedule
- working really hard
- noticeably better than last year
- playing within a well coached structured system
- entertaining to watch
- getting some excellent individual performances

I like it. Not much to complain about at all.
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Old 11-16-2021, 10:41 PM   #171
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Yeah the record is 7 wins, 3 losses, and 6 ties in regulation. Then they just happen to 1-5 in bonus point games so far.

Honestly they could just as easily be 5-1 in the bonus period, it’s a crap shoot.

Even if they were 3-3 and our record was 10-3-3 I think there would be a lot less complaining about how often they go to OT.
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Old 11-16-2021, 10:44 PM   #172
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Flyers thoughts:


Carter Hart: team Canada starter? This year has been a great audition. Offense continues to be snakebitten, and despite the shot total, Hart had tougher saves and stole this one.

Love their faceoff prowess. The secret is having Giroux and Couturier on the same line, and each guy has a preferred circle.

Awesome seeing Hayes get that goal. Hope being with his teammates and playing hockey can get him through his trauma. You can see how happy the whole team was for him.
Defense is missing their best player, Ellis, and everybody stepped up. Sanheim and Ristolainen have been the weakest link on the team, and this was their best game.

Good job team
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I have a lot of confidence that this team will have different overtime results when the extra periods stay 5 on 5.
They just don't surrender the back breaker at 5 on 5.

They've only lost that battle outright 3 times in 16 games.

This is actually a really good sign when you think about it, instead of obsessing over what significance OTLs should hold.

We're 2nd in the west. I'll take any kind of 8-8 that gets you back into that spot your were clamouring to get back to, every day of the week. Especially coming off of the abysmal season that was 20-21.

April onward is where all judgements will be made. Just qualify for that tournament in as good a position as you can. So far, mission pretty accomplished.
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Old 11-16-2021, 10:52 PM   #174
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Just another stat we’re at the top of the league for! OTL Champions! 5 is top spot in league!
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Old 11-16-2021, 10:54 PM   #175
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Flames are:

- very competitive; in every game
- dealing really well with a very difficult schedule
- working really hard
- noticeably better than last year
- playing within a well coached structured system
- entertaining to watch
- getting some excellent individual performances

I like it. Not much to complain about at all.
My only complaint is the amount of missed open cages lately.

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Old 11-16-2021, 11:03 PM   #176
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The matter of fact though is that the NHL standings are based on points and therefore point percentage.

The whole "what is 500?" debate that gets brought up once per month is so tiresome.
That's fair, but when people bring up .500... they're not ever talking about points percentage. You have to be cognizant of that. A points percentage over .500 does not mean anything with respect to the standings. Most years, a team at exactly .500 pts% will be around 26th or so in the overall standings. .

Points percentage is perfectly a valid thing to look at if you're looking at the NHL standings. But when someone brings up .500 you have to realize they are not ever talking about points percentahe.

Wanting to see your team winning more often than they're losing isn't about the standings.

It's possible to see these as two independent objectives. To want to see a team that's at least .500 in win%, and at least a 96 point team in snek%
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Old 11-16-2021, 11:04 PM   #177
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Carter Hart: team Canada starter? This year has been a great audition. Offense continues to be snakebitten, and despite the shot total, Hart had tougher saves and stole this one.

Love their faceoff prowess. The secret is having Giroux and Couturier on the same line, and each guy has a preferred circle.

Awesome seeing Hayes get that goal. Hope being with his teammates and playing hockey can get him through his trauma. You can see how happy the whole team was for him.
Defense is missing their best player, Ellis, and everybody stepped up. Sanheim and Ristolainen have been the weakest link on the team, and this was their best game.

Good job team
Agree Hart stole the game. His pad save on the deflection and his read on JGs wraparound were all-world. Plus he was wise to Tkachuk's lacrosse attempt.
Still, I'd be worried about him handling the pressure if he's my starter in the Olympics. But you bring him and Binnington and see what happens though, no doubt.

Forgot about Ellis. Philly could be pretty good with a healthy roster.
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Old 11-16-2021, 11:07 PM   #178
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The two most important standings indicators are Losses and Goal Differential.
The best teams in the league will always be among the leaders in both.
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Old 11-16-2021, 11:13 PM   #179
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Flyers impressed me with their defence. For the last 20 years a game against the Flyers felt like a break in the schedule because you just knew it would be a sloppy no defence game from the Flyers with crappy goaltending.

This team is well coached and getting good goaltending.
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Old 11-16-2021, 11:16 PM   #180
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I did. It's 8 wins and 8 losses.

Maybe you should math better.
The NHL does not agree with you. We have 5 OTL. The NHL differentiated between an L and an OTL. They are in different brackets. I think that means they aren't the same.
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