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[Street Pharmacist]

One thing that has really struck me is how easy it has been to fool gullible people by taking the anti-government angle. You see countless people taking about how they aren't getting it because they don't trust the government.

Really??? That's the reason?

"I'm not doing it because I'm being forced to"

Are we teenagers again? Is that it?


As a wise poster on here once told me in real life "Those people would discussing the best condiments to put on their $#!* sandwiches if the government banned eating $#!*"

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

One thing that has really struck me is how easy it has been to fool gullible people by taking the anti-government angle. You see countless people taking about how they aren't getting it because they don't trust the government.

Really??? That's the reason?

"I'm not doing it because I'm being forced to"

Are we teenagers again? Is that it?


As a wise poster on here once told me in real life "Those people would discussing the best condiments to put on their $#!* sandwiches if the government banned eating $#!*"

I wonder how many of the idiots are worried about how much testing or the side effects of Viagra are when they need a little help below the Mason Dixon line

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

I wonder how many of the idiots are worried about how much testing or the side effects of Viagra are when they need a little help below the Mason Dixon line

I wonder how many of these idiots “don’t trust the science” right up to when they get sick and then go to the hospital and beg “science” to save them?

[Goriders]

Right on. Another Covid thread.

In season too!

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Liability is a derivative of the primary reason.

And the primary reason is that we need compliance, in order to make the roads safe. Driving would be a chaotic death match without rules and regulations. The only way it is functional for society, is if we all play by the same rules. And in order to ensure that, we restrict who can drive.

If you want to drive, you learn the rules, you get a license, you maintain your license and your understanding of the rules, and you COMPLY with the rules of the road.


If you do not do these things, you cannot drive a vehicle on the roads.

Because driving is a privilege that is earned. It is not a right.

Driving is a privilege. Existing and living a normal life are privileges too? Don't get into politics. Again you don't need photo I.d. to participate in life, except for in a few exceptions ( driving, going to a bar, boarding an international flight.) What kind of totalian monster equates participating with society as a privilege? You do realize driving for the purposes of work is protected as a right? The court works with people who have their license suspended do to intoxication as long as they need to drive for work.

The only similarity between drivers licenses and vaxports is the photo I.d. aspect. Everything else is a stretch.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Driving is a privilege. Existing and living a normal life are privileges too? Don't get into politics. Again you don't need photo I.d. to participate in life, except for in a few exceptions ( driving, going to a bar, boarding an international flight.) What kind of totalian monster equates participating with society as a privilege? You do realize driving for the purposes of work is protected as a right? The court works with people who have their license suspended do to intoxication as long as they need to drive for work.

The only similarity between drivers licenses and vaxports is the photo I.d. aspect. Everything else is a stretch.

What are you calling a normal life? You can be banned from stores, stadiums, etc for breaking rules (stealing, streaking). You can be put in prison (IE: removed from society) for breaking the rules outlined for the society in which you live. This is normal life for Canadians. Rules that you have to abide by (typically in place to protect the populous), or you are punished accordingly. Again, nothing new here. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

I think some people need a lesson in legal/illegal discrimination.

Legal: No shirt, no shoes no service

Illegal: No coloured folk allowed.

Legal: No vaccine, no service

If you don't like that statement, get a lawyer and go challenge it. And when it gets thrown out of court, STFU and stay home. Or get vaxxed. Whatever. But stop acting like "mah freedoms" are being trampled on because you went to the University of Facebook.

You forgot illegal: Vaccine, no service
Illegal: barring someone who has committed alcohol related crimes from being able to procure food and drink from an establishment that serves alcohol
Legal: banning women from men's clubs
Illegal: fishing without a license unless you are a certain minority or married into one. (Or in a province like newfoundland)
Legal: aborting a life you didn't create on you own.
Legal: union busting
Illegal: knowingly using the wrong pronoun

It was illegal to say the F bomb in Edmonton for a time...

Legality has nothing to do with discrimination, it is still legal to discriminate on MANY ways.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

What are you calling a normal life? You can be banned from stores, stadiums, etc for breaking rules (stealing, streaking). You can be put in prison (IE: removed from society) for breaking the rules outlined for the society in which you live. This is normal life for Canadians. Rules that you have to abide by (typically in place to protect the populous), or you are punished accordingly. Again, nothing new here. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

Just being able to enter all public space without having my I.D. checked would be pretty normal. Excluding bars, adult only venues. Didni not just explain this?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Just being able to enter all public space without having my I.D. checked would be pretty normal. Excluding bars, adult only venues. Didni not just explain this?

Yeah but you’re being too specific fixating on ID. There are rules to enter all of those spaces. Not specifically ID, but they all have rules in order for you to use them. Society only exists because people have to follow rules in order for it to function. How can you not understand how that is a privilege??? And not totalitarian in the least. It’s reality.

The mandate is in place to curb an ongoing public health emergency. Once that is over, the mandate will be over. The rule is in place to protect the population as a whole.

[Kipper_3434]

A simple question for all the folks in hear that can't stand freedom.

Would you support a mandate that required everyone to have a QR code tattoo'd to their forehead so that computers and cameras in public spaces can automatically scan and check your vaccine status?

Why or why not?

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Yeah but you’re being too specific fixating on ID. There are rules to enter all of those spaces. Not specifically ID, but they all have rules in order for you to use them. Society only exists because people have to follow rules in order for it to function. How can you not understand how that is a privilege??? And not totalitarian in the least. It’s reality.

The mandate is in place to curb an ongoing public health emergency. Once that is over, the mandate will be over. The rule is in place to protect the population as a whole.

I guess I still remember 2 weeks to flatten the curve. The government eesponse has been a joke. Instead of closing borders we closed a whole damn country. Thats why I don't want anymore mandates.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

A simple question for all the folks in hear that can't stand freedom.

Would you support a mandate that required everyone to have a QR code tattoo'd to their forehead so that computers and cameras in public spaces can automatically scan and check your vaccine status?

Why or why not?

There is no basis to implement such a thing.

There is basis to require people to be vaccinated to enter a publicly shared air indoor environment to curb a pandemic. Let’s not forget that almost all of these places can still provide services to unvaccinated through other means. And that essential services are not restricted.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

How do these dumbasses land such babes?

Hmmm.

You know it’s possible for women to be dumbasses too, right?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

I guess I still remember 2 weeks to flatten the curve. The government eesponse has been a joke. Instead of closing borders we closed a whole damn country. Thats why I don't want anymore mandates.

That isn’t sound reasoning to end mandates. The mandates aren’t in place for your feelings. They are there to protect the health care system from collapse.

Nobody ever claimed it was over with in two weeks. Initial report from the Imperial College predicted phased restrictions, increasing and decreasing (depending on current healthcare capacity) for 2 years.

[PepsiFree]

QR codes tattooed on your forehead would be a really inefficient and eventually ineffective way of doing anything.

Come on, if we're going with outlandish hypotheticals you could have at least gone with having a chip inserted or something. If you're going to be ridiculous at least be smart about it.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

That isn’t sound reasoning to end mandates. The mandates aren’t in place for your feelings. They are there to protect the health care system from collapse.

Nobody ever claimed it was over with in two weeks. Initial report from the Imperial College predicted phased restrictions, increasing and decreasing (depending on current healthcare capacity) for 2 years.

Let's protect the Healthcare system by firing everyone who refuses to get jabbed. These are trained medical professionals losing their jobs because they don't trust that the medical science has been thoroughly proven .

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

QR codes tattooed on your forehead would be a really inefficient and eventually ineffective way of doing anything.

Come on, if we're going with outlandish hypotheticals you could have at least gone with having a chip inserted or something. If you're going to be ridiculous at least be smart about it.

You didn't answer the question . Its almost like equating 2 vaguely similar ideas is ridiculous. Eg: drivers license = vaxport.

Thanks for playing.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

QR codes tattooed on your forehead would be a really inefficient and eventually ineffective way of doing anything.

Come on, if we're going with outlandish hypotheticals you could have at least gone with having a chip inserted or something. If you're going to be ridiculous at least be smart about it.

Not to mention, permanent. Which Covid vaccine mandates are unlikely to be. Which is why it’s a “mandate”, which are to address a specific emergency. Demonstrating even further that they have no intention of trying to understand what is happening.

[Coach]

I wonder how those who think others "can't stand freedom" would feel about someone standing on the public sidewalk directly outside their home playing Rick Astley over and over at a reasonable volume, within the hours of noise bylaws of course, every day. For months, even years, on end. Not harassing anyone coming or going, or even speaking to anyone, or looking inside the house. Just standing, perfectly still, staring out into the public road, "never gonna give you up", 7-11, every time you open your door. Not on your property or violating any laws though...so you know....freedom. No complaints?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Yeah but you’re being too specific fixating on ID. There are rules to enter all of those spaces. Not specifically ID, but they all have rules in order for you to use them. Society only exists because people have to follow rules in order for it to function. How can you not understand how that is a privilege??? And not totalitarian in the least. It’s reality.

The mandate is in place to curb an ongoing public health emergency. Once that is over, the mandate will be over. The rule is in place to protect the population as a whole.

Yup. There’s all kinds of health codes about allowing people in and serving them.