2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Backstop

The casual goal thing is definitely noticeable with some of the Flames as its the antithesis of the "monster truck, git' down" celebration after goals up North. I think Don Cherry used to go on about big goal celebrations on HNiC as well.

Definitely something in the water up there…

[chedder]

Originally Posted by Backstop

His goal in Jersey stuck with me, there was no pointing from Tkachuk (usually always pointing at who sent him the pass) and in the celebration scrum he turned away from the other players as they closed in for the old victory embrace. Entire thing just struck me as odd.

I noticed the turning away and not embracing his teammates. Whether it is something or nothing only time will tell.

[BigRed]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

Probably because it made it 5-1 in the 3rd and he didn’t want to come off as rubbing salt in the wound.

Seriously? Rubbing salt in wounds is half of Tkachuk’s game.


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[dino7c]

Originally Posted by BigRed

Seriously? Rubbing salt in wounds is half of Tkachuk’s game.


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Nah, he never celebrates goals like that

[browntrout]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

Eichel WAS a pretty good player before he got hurt but not a Matthews or McDavid. Would I like to have him? Sure. But not for the prices some people on here are willing to pay. I’d keep my bird in hand Mangiapane all day long over who knows what version of Eichel you will end up with for example. Now if you want to trade Tkachuk and a first for him , fine assuming there’s 2 firsts coming back if Eichel is unable to play again or regain his past glory.

I would do that trade


To Sabres: tkachuk and a Lottery protected first

To Flames: Eichel, and if Surgery does not go well or is not able to play a certain number of games 2 First rounds picks back to Calgary

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Backstop

His goal in Jersey stuck with me, there was no pointing from Tkachuk (usually always pointing at who sent him the pass) and in the celebration scrum he turned away from the other players as they closed in for the old victory embrace. Entire thing just struck me as odd.

Originally Posted by flamesgod

Probably because it made it 5-1 in the 3rd and he didn’t want to come off as rubbing salt in the wound.

Also, immediately after the goal, he reached up to grab his mouth guard but dropped it, so he bent over to pick it up off the ice. By the time he stood up, everyone had already gathered round.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by BigRed

Seriously? Rubbing salt in wounds is half of Tkachuk’s game.


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He does that stuff when he’s trying to help lead the team to victory. Not when it’s 5-1 in the third.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

Eichel WAS a pretty good player before he got hurt but not a Matthews or McDavid.

What?

Eichel prime was every bit as good as Matthews. Matthews just got drafted by a team that tanked/rebuilt in the most successful way.

IMO Jack is actually better, but even if you wanna split the difference and call them equals, there's still the fact that Eichel is a righthanded shot. Among our best forwards:


Gaudreau - L
Mangiapane - L
Lindholm - R
Tkachuk - L
Backlund - L
Coleman - L
Dube - L
Monahan - L
Lucic - L
Pitlick - R

Eight of ten are left shots. Only one of the two right shots belongs on the powerplay.

A star RHS forward who will be on PP1 would be a huge addition in terms of pure value-added compared to Auston Matthews.

[jg13]

Put me on the Eichel > Matthews train.

No way Matthews has the kind of success he does in Buffalo with the support that Eichels had throughout his career. Switch the two and have Eichel playing with Hyman and Marner and a PP with Tavares as well and he's out producing Matthews easily.

[Harry Lime]

I love that in this article of why Calgary should be serious about bringing in Kravtsov, it drops this little tidbit from the start of the season until now.

The team seems to have two lines figured out through seven games, being the Lindholm and Backlund lines. Dube and Andrew Mangiapane have currently been playing with Brett Ritchie on the right wing, which Mangiapane’s hot start has somewhat masked. The line in 32 minutes of ice-time at five on five has a Corsi for percentage (CF%) of 40 percent and a 31.68 percentage expected goals for percentage (xGF%). In 23 minutes that Mangiapane and Dube have played away from Ritchie, they have a 55.32 CF% and a 67.62 xGF%.

He does offer up the two top prospects in the system going back the other way, in Zary or Coronato, and I don't think that's realistic. I think that Kravtsov is worth a 3 through 5 skating prospect on this team. He does state in the comments that any of the top three Calgary prospects going the other way would be a lateral move, and is not sure if it's in Calgary's interest.

Can Tre sell the Rangers on Petterson or Ruszicka? (maybe plus a 2nd)

https://thehockeywriters.com/flames-...rice-is-right/

[traptor]

Yeah I agree, Kravstov would be a really nice addition to that line.

If you can get Kravstov for a 2nd+Ruzicka/Petterson, I do that all day. I wouldn't be willing to move Zary, Pelletier or Coronato for him though.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Just to add, as I posted in another thread, Kravtsov tied Panarin for the ninth best scoring total for an under-20 player (21pts in 50 games) in KHL history, putting up an astonishing 26.58% of his teams points in his D+1 year. When he was drafted, he was compared to Kuznetsov for his skill and edgy play. The only reason he was around at the Rangers pick was said to be the Russian factor. He's 6'3", plays a bit of a power game, has skill, and skates very well. Very hard to knock off the puck. This is the kind of prospect we are sorely lacking, but as stated above, he needs some seasoning.

I think we're undervaluing Kravtsov a bit. I would be nervous to give up Zary, but if the opportunity to grab this kid comes along, I think you have to look at it.

[Dude Where's Makar?]

If Eichel doesn't work out, what about addressing our top 6RW? It would be nice to have a legit weapon in the top 6 over Ritchie.

With Montreal struggling, Toffoli might be a nice look? Only 2 more years after this season at 4.25. Proven goalscorer and has played under Sutter. Seems like an obvious fit.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Dude Where's Makar?

If Eichel doesn't work out, what about addressing our top 6RW? It would be nice to have a legit weapon in the top 6 over Ritchie.

With Montreal struggling, Toffoli might be a nice look? Only 2 more years after this season at 4.25. Proven goalscorer and has played under Sutter. Seems like an obvious fit.

I think the Habs would hold onto him.

I personally would like to go after Kessel, if we got a 3rd team to retain more on Kessel's contract down to 2m (I think a contract can only go 75% max discount, someone correct me if wrong). I don't think he would cost very much, and although he might not seem like a Sutter player, I think he would be a great acquisition as a playmaker and a scorer. He and Gaudreau on separate lines would make us pretty dangerous.

Another option is if San Jose is out of the running at the TDL, I would love for us to acquire C/LW Hertl, and extend him right away. He would compliment our top 6 nicely, and Sutter would love him.

[Dude Where's Makar?]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I think the Habs would hold onto him.

I personally would like to go after Kessel, if we got a 3rd team to retain more on Kessel's contract down to 2m (I think a contract can only go 75% max discount, someone correct me if wrong). I don't think he would cost very much, and although he might not seem like a Sutter player, I think he would be a great acquisition as a playmaker and a scorer. He and Gaudreau on separate lines would make us pretty dangerous.

Another option is if San Jose is out of the running at the TDL, I would love for us to acquire C/LW Hertl, and extend him right away. He would compliment our top 6 nicely, and Sutter would love him.

Hertl would be a fantastic add.
I really want that RHW RW slot to be filled by a legit scoring threat.

Having a 1-2 punch of Lindholm/Hertl would be unreal though

[Pickle Juice]

So winning games, does it make it more likely we trade for Eichel or less in people’s opinion?

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Pickle Juice

So winning games, does it make it more likely we trade for Eichel or less in people’s opinion?

I think more likely only if he can be had for futures/prospects + Monahan (possibly to a third team like Ottawa) + zadorov (cap reasons). I really don’t think the GM and coach want to mess with the on ice roster too much right now. It would hurt to lose Monahan but I think at this point it would hurt more to lose Dube or Valimaki. I’m not saying those players are a hard no in a trade for eichel… I’m just saying I bet the push to acquire eichel right now is to do so without losing either of them.


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[Heavy Jack]

Honestly the same could be considered for Buffalo and the streak they find themselves in; adding a player like Monahan into their roster strengthens them immediately and while they find themselves with a hot start.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Honestly the same could be considered for Buffalo and the streak they find themselves in; adding a player like Monahan into their roster strengthens them immediately and while they find themselves with a hot start.

What a wild retool that would be. Trade away an elite centre and make the playoffs?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Definitely something in the water up there…

Lead. The something in the water is lead.