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gvitaly · 10-28-2021, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Flamesguy_SJ

Gotta admit, having a hard to getting excited about watching an NHL game. I think Elliotte Friedman said it pretty well on Marek's show yesterday: I have lost a lot of enthusiasm for the game after the last couple of days.

Sorry to be a downer; I'm apparently really having a hard time sorting through my feelings as a fan of hockey and the NHL.

I hope the Flames win tonight, but really, is it a big deal if they don't? I'm not sure anymore.

Is it a big deal if a team loses? Definitely not. There are many more important things than hockey.

For me hockey is a tool, if the Flames win it brings me positivity, and entertainment. If they lose, well it's not like I lost, so why get upset/make a big deal about it?

It remains the entertainment business, so if it stops bringing you entertainment, find something that will.

Locke · 10-28-2021, 11:44 AM

Calgary and Penguins have had...lets call it a tumultuous history....

Penguins and Calgary? We uh....we dont mix well.

djsFlames · 10-28-2021, 11:47 AM

I don't hold a lot of respect for this league and how it goes about its business, but I like this team. At least there are good people working for our club, and consummate professionals. It is nice to be able to say that. If it weren't for the Flames, I'd have nothing to do with the NHL.

dino7c · 10-28-2021, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Flamesguy_SJ

Gotta admit, having a hard to getting excited about watching an NHL game. I think Elliotte Friedman said it pretty well on Marek's show yesterday: I have lost a lot of enthusiasm for the game after the last couple of days.

Sorry to be a downer; I'm apparently really having a hard time sorting through my feelings as a fan of hockey and the NHL.

I hope the Flames win tonight, but really, is it a big deal if they don't? I'm not sure anymore.

At least the Flames are a team that handle situations similar to this well...of all the negative things said about the Flames organization JQ would have been gone and not behind the bench last night.

What a terrible look

gvitaly · 10-28-2021, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Textcritic

The massive undervaluing of Sean Monahan on this board continues to astound me.

In the last 82 games Monahan has 9g 15a 24p 5 on 5.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1453743014023553027

Those numbers are not terrible, but they are not worth his current cap-hit of $6.375M. I saw some encouraging signs in his game, but he's on the 3rd-4th line for now. We all hope that he recovers/comes back to career averages, but right now I think his value is completely shot.

Is it a 5th round pick? probably not... I have no idea, but neither do you.

Psytic · 10-28-2021, 12:02 PM

Damn it Bread is getting paaaiiiid isnt he. Going to be an interesting time for BT.

djsFlames · 10-28-2021, 12:03 PM

Those 5 on 5 totals will go up if they play they have the way to start the season.

The Gaudreau-Monahan pairing could not sustain any o-zone time let alone produce at even strength for the last 1-2 seasons. This new top line is doing much, much better in that department.

Those numbers should derail a lot of the Backlund hate though. He is very important to this team.

gvitaly · 10-28-2021, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Psytic

Damn it Bread is getting paaaiiiid isnt he. Going to be an interesting time for BT.

I wonder if the Flames are going to try and get a contract mid-season, or wait until the off-season so they have a larger sample size of Mangiapane.

icarus · 10-28-2021, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Hapless flightless aquatic birds are no match for scorching Flames. No doubt a show of superior hockey excellence by the visiting team!

I visited the Calgary Zoo yesterday and spent a bit of time in the penguin enclosure, I can confirm that they just tend to stand around and occasionally pick up rocks. So your assessment seems accurate.

gvitaly · 10-28-2021, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by djsFlames

Those 5 on 5 totals will go up if they play they have the way to start the season.

The Gaudreau-Monahan pairing could not sustain any o-zone time let alone produce at even strength for the last 1-2 seasons. This new top line is doing much, much better in that department.

Those numbers should derail a lot of the Backlund hate though. He is very important to this team.

Yeah, I'm not saying that Monahan is bad, I was just saying that his value for other GMs can be anything right now.

He has plenty of legitimate reasons as to why those numbers have been low, and hopefully his numbers go up, both 5 on 5 and on the PP. Moreover, I think his numbers get better if he gets to play with Dube and Mangiapane again instead of Ritchie.

GioforPM · 10-28-2021, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Knightslayer

All data points to Hanifin being a 2nd pairing D man. He is a 30 point d man like I said. Jfresh analytics names him as a 2nd pairing D man with pretty average defensive analytics. Also Those defenceman you named were UFA. Can't compare an RFA with a UFA. Hanifin contract was 4 years RFA and 2 years UFA. He was fair market value when signed.

Also Mangi signed a 2 year deal for $2.4 but you don't think he would have added 6 more years to make $35 million more guaranteed? That is a silly argument.

Flames likely sign him this off season for that deal.

If you can't even quote yourself properly why should I bother with this? You said 25.

And yes, these days you can compare RFAs with UFAs because (a) it's a hypothetical if he was a UFA and (b) RFAs are being paid that way now. Anyway, Trouba was an RFA when he signed his contract and so was Subban.

Players are not opting for 8 year deals like they used to. Mangiapani signed a $2.4 deal for 2 years because he believed he could have a much higher payday afterwards and he was right. For all I know he turned down a longer term.

Jfresh calling him a 2D doesn't make him one. When he was paired with Tanev they got all the tough assignments.

Dude Where's Makar? · 10-28-2021, 12:18 PM

When was the last time the Flames went 5-0 on a road trip? I think there might have been one around 2007-2009 I vaguely remember?

Either way, I'm excited for this game! No Crosby or Malkin, and the chance to be top of the division by nights end!

Makarov · 10-28-2021, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gvitaly

Yeah, I'm not saying that Monahan is bad, I was just saying that his value for other GMs can be anything right now.

He has plenty of legitimate reasons as to why those numbers have been low, and hopefully his numbers go up, both 5 on 5 and on the PP. Moreover, I think his numbers get better if he gets to play with Dube and Mangiapane again instead of Ritchie.

I'd really like to see:

Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Mangiapane - Dube - Monahan
Pitlick - Backlund - Coleman
Lucic - Richardson - Lewis

heep223 · 10-28-2021, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by icarus

I visited the Calgary Zoo yesterday and spent a bit of time in the penguin enclosure, I can confirm that they just tend to stand around and occasionally pick up rocks. So your assessment seems accurate.

They also stink.

Dude Where's Makar? · 10-28-2021, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Makarov

I'd really like to see:

Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Mangiapane - Dube - Monahan
Pitlick - Backlund - Coleman
Lucic - Richardson - Lewis

I really like the look of those forward lines. I think we'll see this at some point soon.

Northendzone · 10-28-2021, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

of course Crosby will make his season debut against the Flames

they were likely keepig sid in the barn until tonight. anyway, if you wanna be the best, ya gotta beat the best

Makarov · 10-28-2021, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dude Where's Makar?

I really like the look of those forward lines. I think we'll see this at some point soon.

I know Dube has struggled at times as a centre so far this season, but he has also shown some real promise. He's really able to use his speed and agility while carrying the puck as a centre.

GioforPM · 10-28-2021, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Makarov

I'd really like to see:

Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Mangiapane - Dube - Monahan
Pitlick - Backlund - Coleman
Lucic - Richardson - Lewis

I originally liked the second line (whether Dube or Monahan was C) but now I wonder if Mangi and Dube just play a pace that doesn't match Monahan, who seems to like a more controlled pace. He's very involved in the play with his present linemates because they seem to be up the ice at the same time. But obviously his linemates have little offence to offer.

That said, I think their fancy stats were good the one or two games they were together. And it's not like he's going to contribute less than Ritchie (though I didn't mind Ritchie last game). Ritchie is a guy I don't mind injecting for enthusiasm from time to time but he can't be a top 6 regular.

Icon · 10-28-2021, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gvitaly

https://twitter.com/user/status/1453743014023553027

What this really shows me is Mangi should have more time with the #1PP unit.

Camronius · 10-28-2021, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Psytic

Damn it Bread is getting paaaiiiid isnt he. Going to be an interesting time for BT.

Yeah. I wanted Brad to lock this guy up both times he had the chance. Arguably maybe that partly motivated him to perform the way he has... but this kid has done it at every level and repeatedly proved any naysayers wrong. He started to do it a couple of years back with Calgary, you could just see it was coming.

Regardless it's one of those "good problems to have" I guess. Maybe we save some money on Chucky underperforming?