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Dion · 10-20-2021, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigtime

Council moves his office to the basement like Costanza? They can't force him to resign, just make it miserable for him?

Better yet

https://youtu.be/hmFZ4OrappE?t=55

TorqueDog · 10-20-2021, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Sounds like a real piece of garbage, shocking absolutely no one.

I'm struggling to find what I should find objectionable about his statement ...?

Wormius · 10-20-2021, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TorqueDog

I'm struggling to find what I should find objectionable about his statement ...?

I think he was talking about Chu, not Neufeld.

TorqueDog · 10-20-2021, 09:20 PM

Y'know, that does make a lot more sense....

Edit: Yeah no, clearly I was right the first time. Neufeld joined CPS in 2019, I really think that some people were never going to be satisfied no matter what his response was.

Locke · 10-20-2021, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by getbak

Statement from the Chief of Police: https://newsroom.calgary.ca/chief-ne...llor-sean-chu/

Sorry, that just sounds like a whole ton of ass-covering and bullet-dodging.

"We've done nothing and we're all out of ideas!"

Cecil Terwilliger · 10-20-2021, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wormius

I think he was talking about Chu, not Neufeld.

No I meant the police chief. As Locke said, it’s all just ass covering and bullet dodging. Defends the police says they did nothing wrong and accept no responsibility but oh yeah CPS cares so much about victims. So much so that they ignore them and let officers who have sex with young girls get off Scott free.

OldDutch · 10-20-2021, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke

Sorry, that just sounds like a whole ton of ass-covering and bullet-dodging.

"We've done nothing and we're all out of ideas!"

The CPS gave Chu a 20 year exemplary service award in 2014.

They investigated and reprimanded him for the 1997 incident and the 2008 wife/gun during this exemplary service.

This is a black eye for our cops for sure.

WhiteTiger · 10-20-2021, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDutch

The CPS gave Chu a 20 year exemplary service award in 2014.

A "time in grade" medal is just a time in grade medal. He got one for 10 years, and the second for 20 years.

getbak · 10-20-2021, 10:48 PM

Statement from Ward 7 Councilor-elect Terry Wong...

OldDutch · 10-20-2021, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

A "time in grade" medal is just a time in grade medal. He got one for 10 years, and the second for 20 years.

So the standard service award awarded to everyone called “exemplary service” or is that Chu misleading?

I just ask because Chu called it that on twitter in 2014. If so, the CPS needs to stop recognizing cops without exemplary service as being exemplary.

Locke · 10-20-2021, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

A "time in grade" medal is just a time in grade medal. He got one for 10 years, and the second for 20 years.

The concept of medals for 'Time in Service' without thought for the actual merit and/or quality of that service seems like a flawed methodology.

getbak · 10-20-2021, 10:51 PM

Despite Wong's statement, even if Chu resigns before the swearing-in, there would still need to be a by-election.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1451047319529398275

Wormius · 10-20-2021, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by getbak

Statement from Ward 7 Councilor-elect Terry Wong...

Is that how it works? I thought if Chu is proclaimed as winner, that was it and the only option is by-election regardless of what Chu does.

Reggie Dunlop · 10-20-2021, 10:55 PM

I like DJ Kelly just fine (not my ward though). I think he'd be a great councillor, but the only fair thing to do would be to hold a by-election and allow new challengers to also enter. With a lack of an incumbent, it changes the dynamic.

Reggie Dunlop · 10-20-2021, 10:56 PM

Wong is wrong.

WhiteTiger · 10-20-2021, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDutch

So the standard service award awarded to everyone called “exemplary service” or is that Chu misleading?

I just ask because Chu called it that on twitter in 2014. If so, the CPS needs to stop recognizing cops without exemplary service as being exemplary.

Yes. The Distinguished Service Medal is the 10 year one. The Exemplary Service Medal is the 20 year one. If you are a sworn member and reach those time in grade milestones, you get one.

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Originally Posted by Locke

The concept of medals for 'Time in Service' without thought for the actual merit and/or quality of that service seems like a flawed methodology.

I happen to agree, but I imagine that the concept is that 'you' are not perfect, but if you have put in X amount of time, you have done more good than harm.

While I am not defending or condoning Chu, he does make a good example. His conduct at that time earned him 5 years under a Discreditable Conduct banner. He clearly behaved well enough during that time period that it expired (and was not superseded by more disciplinary action or extended). He's "done his time" and so the warning goes away.

Locke · 10-20-2021, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

Yes. The Distinguished Service Medal is the 10 year one. The Exemplary Service Medal is the 20 year one. If you are a sworn member and reach those time in grade milestones, you get one.

I happen to agree, but I imagine that the concept is that 'you' are not perfect, but if you have put in X amount of time, you have done more good than harm.

While I am not defending or condoning Chu, he does make a good example. His conduct at that time earned him 5 years under a Discreditable Conduct banner. He clearly behaved well enough during that time period that it expired (and was not superseded by more disciplinary action or extended). He's "done his time" and so the warning goes away.

Sure he did. As far as anyone (in the Public) knows. I'm certain that the Police are up-front and honest with us in all manners....other than this particular incident. No other officers behaved badly and their records were conveniently reviewed and then inconveniently destroyed.

All is well.

Consider me skeptical.

Its not just about Chu. It goes to the core of the organization.

I dont know about everyone else, but I'm getting tired of this nonsense.

Somehow he got a gag order on this up until the day of the election? Come on.

Captain Otto · 10-20-2021, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

No I meant the police chief. As Locke said, it’s all just ass covering and bullet dodging. Defends the police says they did nothing wrong and accept no responsibility but oh yeah CPS cares so much about victims. So much so that they ignore them and let officers who have sex with young girls get off Scott free.

That's not really what was said.

I think he was just explaining the processes back in 1997. Further, that other levels of the legal system were involved and it wasn't just cops investigating cops.

He also adds that processes are different now.

Whatever you think was done right or wrong in 1997, the fact remains, that WAS the process and it was followed according to the chief.

I'm not really sure what you want him to say.

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Locke · 10-20-2021, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Otto

That's not really what was said.

I think he was just explaining the processes back in 1997. Further, that other levels of the legal system were involved and it wasn't just cops investigating cops.

He also adds that processes are different now.

Whatever you think was done right or wrong in 1997, the fact remains, that WAS the process and it was followed according to the chief.

I'm not really sure what you want him to say.

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Really?

A City official raped a kid as a uniformed cop and somehow got a gag order on it? And that was the official process?

I think that raises some very serious questions about 'the official process' and the people entrusted to implement it.

Captain Otto · 10-20-2021, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke

Really?

A City official raped a kid as a uniformed cop and somehow got a gag order on it? And that was the official process?

I think that raises some very serious questions about 'the official process' and the people entrusted to implement it.

Sorry. I'm a little late to the party.

Are you referring to the Sealing Order that Justice Price implemented? If so, there's pretty specific reasons why those are issued and none of them involve an accused or offender simply wanting one because it'll look bad.

Apologies if I misunderstood your post.

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