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CF%: 61.00 (2nd) 
FF%: 58.38 (3rd) 
SF%: 60.00 (1st) 
SCF%: 65.79 (1st) 
SCF/60: 36.46 (3rd) 
SCA/60: 18.96 (2nd) 
HDCF%: 65.12 (2nd) 
HDCF/60: 13.61 (5th) 
HDCA/60: 7.29 (4th) 
xGF%: 59.52 (4th) 
 
Pure dominance. 
 
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				What two playoff series wins in 6 years as a generational talent? 
 
Swept last year by an inferior Jets team. 
 
Was directly responsible for two game winning goals by the Jets. 
			
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All of this is more than what the Flames have done... It's a really low bar.
 
We all laugh at how bad Edmonton has been run but refuse to see that Calgary is in a worse position to succeed.
 
I hate the Oilers and McDavid as much as the rest of you, but the Mangiapane McDavid meme is oiler fans level of homerism
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				They exploited something the league changed course on. Don’t be sour because we didn’t do it better/worse. 
			
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I'm not sour. In fact i'd be embbarassed to call myself a Flames fan if my team ever accomplished that.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				They allow 47 shots to the Flames but should be able to beat the Avs in a 7 game series lol 
 
now all your hot takes are making sense 
 
 
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Haha some arguments there champ.  Man you’re on it tonight.  Holland can’t keep winning when the team he has built is coming to their swan song. They were competitive for how long? More competitive sustainability than any coach or executive in our neck of the woods could ever boast about. 
 
47 shots but how many were dangerous? Goalies like Kelly hrudey said in the broadcast tonight, play better with more work to do, especially when a lot of those chances aren’t really dangerous. Not gonna win many when a 39 year old goalie people are laughing at schools your team full of try hards.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				I'm not sour. In fact i'd be embbarassed to call myself a Flames fan if my team ever accomplished that. 
			
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				Haha some arguments there champ.  Man you’re on it tonight.  Holland can’t keep winning when the team he has built is coming to their swan song. They were competitive for how long? More competitive sustainability than any coach or executive in our neck of the woods could ever boast about.  
 
47 shots but how many were dangerous? Goalies like Kelly hrudey said in the broadcast tonight, play better with more work to do, especially when a lot of those chances aren’t really dangerous. Not gonna win many when a 39 year old goalie people are laughing at schools your team full of try hards. 
			
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				All of this is more than what the Flames have done... It's a really low bar. 
 
We all laugh at how bad Edmonton has been run but refuse to see that Calgary is in a worse position to succeed. 
 
I hate the Oilers and McDavid as much as the rest of you, but the Mangiapane McDavid meme is oiler fans level of homerism 
			
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Well going back to your original argument, half of which held no weight 
 
Gold medals & tournament MVPs in a win >>>> Art Ross trophies in meaningless season. 
 
Every time. 
 
There is a grand total of 0 times that I've thought about Johnny's individual trophy awards since he won them. I'm sure he does, but I don't. If those trophies truly mean something to Edmontonians then great for them, but we care more about team success down here.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				All of this is more than what the Flames have done... It's a really low bar. 
 
We all laugh at how bad Edmonton has been run but refuse to see that Calgary is in a worse position to succeed. 
 
I hate the Oilers and McDavid as much as the rest of you, but the Mangiapane McDavid meme is oiler fans level of homerism 
			
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Except the Oilers haven't won 2 rounds...they have won ONE in McDavid's career
 
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				Flames through 2 games: 
 
CF%: 61.00 (2nd) 
FF%: 58.38 (3rd) 
SF%: 60.00 (1st) 
SCF%: 65.79 (1st) 
SCF/60: 36.46 (3rd) 
SCA/60: 18.96 (2nd) 
HDCF%: 65.12 (2nd) 
HDCF/60: 13.61 (5th) 
HDCA/60: 7.29 (4th) 
xGF%: 59.52 (4th) 
 
Pure dominance. 
 
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We’ve played the Oilers and the Ducks.
 
If the Oilers didn’t have McDrai, they’d be the Ducks. A bottom 5 team.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Wait lol. What were you on Tkachuk about if you're a No Good fan?  
 
Did you actually just pose as a Flames fan in a PGT trying to convince people that Tkachuk is a bum and needs to be shipped off?  
 
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I never said a bum and now you’re editorializing what I said to fit your new narrative of making me an antagonist. Some shrewd insights their boss. 
 
Who’s a no good fan? I cheer for these teams they trot out there year after year only to never be able to compete for a championship. I just don’t go to the stadium to pay elaborate prices for their optimistic opium they pour at the dome. Now they gotta pay for a new stadium with our group? They must really have their finger on the pulse of this fan base if they know we are gonna support massive ticket price increases and property tax for a team that may never fill that arena with a championship banner before we stop paying for that stadium come year 35.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Haha some arguments there champ.  Man you’re on it tonight.  Holland can’t keep winning when the team he has built is coming to their swan song. They were competitive for how long? More competitive sustainability than any coach or executive in our neck of the woods could ever boast about.  
 
47 shots but how many were dangerous? Goalies like Kelly hrudey said in the broadcast tonight, play better with more work to do, especially when a lot of those chances aren’t really dangerous. Not gonna win many when a 39 year old goalie people are laughing at schools your team full of try hards. 
			
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So you are a troll, good to know
 
This is as good as the Oilers are gonna get, are they good enough to win? I don't think so.  Holland has spent all his cap space on Hyman, Nurse, and Keith.  GL
 
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Not at all. Are you insinuating this because youre looking to pick on someone who says some harsh truths about our favourite team? Lookup my past posts. I’m red through and through. 
 
I just know that team has a better chance to win something meaningful opposed to our moribund group.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Flags fly forever. Think Pittsburgh fans are embarrassed? Washington?  No because they have cups and we have sour grapes. 
			
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				Well going back to your original argument, half of which held no weight  
 
Gold medals & tournament MVPs in a win >>>> Art Ross trophies in meaningless season.  
 
Every time.  
 
There is a grand total of 0 times that I've thought about Johnny's individual trophy awards since he won them. I'm sure he does, but I don't. If those trophies truly mean something to Edmontonians then great for them, but we care more about team success down here. 
			
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You are talking about the world championships, a tournament that is missing the best players in the world regularly. Due to the fact that, you know, most of the top players in the world are actually playing in the NHL playoffs. Do you remember who made some of these teams and played actual games?? Connor Mackey was a starting defencemen for the Americans. ####... Owen Power played and didn't look out of place.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			I think some people are thumb sucking their favourite fancy stats.  
 
The ducks are plain bad.  
 
The flames were better but never really dangerous. They controlled the puck but mostly did nothing with it. Little sustained pressure and few rebounds. The best the flames could muster against a bad team was a coin toss.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				So you are a troll, good to know 
 
This is as good as the Oilers are gonna get, are they good enough to win? I don't think so.  Holland has spent all his cap space on Hyman, Nurse, and Keith.  GL 
 
 
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So you’re omniscient ? You know how they are going to finish every year? Get out of your own egos way there man. Really unbefitting of decent fan talk. Yet some how I’m the troll.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				You are talking about the world championships, a tournament that is missing the best players in the world regularly. Due to the fact that, you know, most of the trip players in the world are actually playing in the NHL playoffs. Do you remember who made some of these teams and played actual games?? Connor Mackey was a starting defencemen for the Americans. ####... Owen Power played and didn't look out of place. 
			
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Why are you so defensive about the Oilers?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				So you’re omniscient ? You know how they are going to finish every year? Get out of your own egos way there man. Really unbefitting of decent fan talk. Yet some how I’m the troll. 
			
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You have come to a Flames/Ducks PGT to ramble on about Brady being better than Mat and that the Oilers are well managed (both are laughable)
 
Dying on both hills
 
if that isn't trollish I don't know what is
 
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				All of this is more than what the Flames have done... It's a really low bar. 
 
We all laugh at how bad Edmonton has been run but refuse to see that Calgary is in a worse position to succeed. 
 
I hate the Oilers and McDavid as much as the rest of you, but the Mangiapane McDavid meme is oiler fans level of homerism 
			
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I haven't refused anything.
 
You're way over on the No Good (TM) side of things, so I refuse to engage with you further good sir.
 
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				All of this is more than what the Flames have done... It's a really low bar. 
 
We all laugh at how bad Edmonton has been run but refuse to see that Calgary is in a worse position to succeed. 
 
I hate the Oilers and McDavid as much as the rest of you, but the Mangiapane McDavid meme is oiler fans level of homerism 
			
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All the Oilers have and talk about are the past Cup wins from the glory days. Can't talk about much else can they?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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