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			I can see Keith imprinting the attitude that he and his family poops gold. The brothers are really good kids. I can see the air of entitlement all being traced back to papa.  
 
Not that there's anything wrong with building strong negotiating chops - that's how you get good things in life. But objectively MT also can't claim to be playing up to the caliber his dad probably tells him he is in recent times. 
 
He still has his hurdles to getting to that level imo. That being not getting shook by other teams trying to throw him off ala Muzzin & Doughty. Needs to thicken his hide this year to earn that albatross contract.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-17-2021, 09:26 PM
			
			
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				Yea, not gonna lie, as an owner of multiple Tkachuk jerseys and his biggest fan, that was far from the best thing to read. Especially speaking so openly about it and coming off sounding so entitled and me-first. 
 
No trouble paying him what he deserves, but his quotes kinda comes off as sounding like the entire Tkachuk clan (which we knew already from Keith's past) has no trouble holding out to be paid more than they deserve. 
 
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I really hope he can as well. But I think he will be a part of a really big trade in the next few weeks.  
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			09-17-2021, 09:48 PM
			
			
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			Trade him for the best return you can get, and move on.  He’s all mouth and doesn’t back it up.  He’s another mistake waiting to happen.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-17-2021, 09:48 PM
			
			
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			I hope Darryl reads that…
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-17-2021, 10:01 PM
			
			
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				Gross. I'd really love if the Flames just washed their hands of the Tkachuks all together right now.  
 
I'll say this though, Matty better put up some big boy numbers this year or shut up at the negotiating table. 
			
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Ya but it doesnt matter. He's 9M/yr away from UFA.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-17-2021, 10:29 PM
			
			
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				I hope Darryl reads that… 
			
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Lol kinda makes me wish Tkachuk had to deal with Randy Carlyle, by the Gods he hates entitled American kids with the passion of a thousand burning suns. Would have played out like Torts and PLD I imagine.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-17-2021, 10:31 PM
			
			
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			09-17-2021, 10:50 PM
			
			
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			we really need some games to talk about 
 
what is he gonna say...WOW! 8x8 my brother would be stupid not to sign that 
 
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			09-17-2021, 10:52 PM
			
			
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				Ya but it doesnt matter. He's 9M/yr away from UFA. 
			
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I would be surprised if he doesn’t accept the QO this summer. What incentive is there to sign anything less or for longer?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-17-2021, 10:57 PM
			
			
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			09-17-2021, 11:06 PM
			
			
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			09-17-2021, 11:10 PM
			
			
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			Tkachuk is quite a character. I like the guy but it's time he stepped up.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-17-2021, 11:29 PM
			
			
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				Trade him for the best return you can get, and move on. 
			
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Nah. Not the way the Flames roll. We’ll walk him to free agency. Same with Gaudreau. Because if everything falls into place, this is a roster that just might make the playoffs. Maybe even win a round. Can’t jeopardize that by worrying about scenarios two years down the road.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-17-2021, 11:31 PM
			
			
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			What a dbag. Hope they trade him. Such entitled talk for someone who hasn't accomplished anything to date.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-17-2021, 11:37 PM
			
			
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			Treliving: I'd rather keep him for a season and then lose him for nothing instead of trading him for future assets,  I mean I might not even be here next year so who cares!?!?!?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-17-2021, 11:56 PM
			
			
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				I would be surprised if he doesn’t accept the QO this summer. What incentive is there to sign anything less or for longer? 
			
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The Flames don't have to qualify him. He is guaranteed to get paid at least $7.65M for that year. That's not too bad, but a lot of it depends on how well he performs. Therefore, a number in the $8M+ range might be something he would find appealing on a longer term. 
 
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			09-18-2021, 12:28 AM
			
			
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				Nah. Not the way the Flames roll. We’ll walk him to free agency. Same with Gaudreau. Because if everything falls into place, this is a roster that just might make the playoffs. Maybe even win a round. Can’t jeopardize that by worrying about scenarios two years down the road. 
			
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I get that its always the fear but when have the Flames lost a star player as a UFA?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-18-2021, 12:43 AM
			
			
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				I get that its always the fear but when have the Flames lost a star player as a UFA? 
			
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When have the Flames ever had young American stars.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-18-2021, 12:43 AM
			
			
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				we really need some games to talk about 
 
what is he gonna say...WOW! 8x8 my brother would be stupid not to sign that 
 
Tkachuck needs to step up big time this season but he was asked a question about his brother and answered it.  Every player wants what they think they are worth 
			
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There's a difference between answering a question and what he said.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-18-2021, 04:19 AM
			
			
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			Tkachuk was a total dbag in that interview. His whole demeanour, attitude and what he said was just dumb.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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