[News] Saddledome is going cashless

[Locke]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Cool cool. Can the team go suck-less also?

How much cash have you got?

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Locke

How much cash have you got?

His cash is no good here

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by Locke

Yeah, I was being highly sarcastic. I havent paid cash for something in....it seems like forever.

I do remember going to Disneyland and the man in front of me paid for his family's admission (2 adults + 4 kids) in cash and I remember thinking:

"If thats what he had for admission, how much more is he holding?? I hope the 'happiest place on Earth' has some dark alleys."

I started carrying cash simply to pay at the weed stores.

[Knightslayer]

I haven't used cash in years but I still disagree with this. My mom is a huge Flames fan and goes to a few games a year and now won't be able to buy anything there since she doesn't use a card at all. She's old school and nothing will make her change her ways.

Who wants to bet the Saddledome still has those faucets where everyone touches instead of upgrading to touchless? That's how we will know if this decision was actually about safety.

[memphusk]

What happens when someone's bank is down? Do you need to come with cards for all banks?

[heep223]

Who gives a flying #### either way.

Ppl cancelling their tickets because they won’t print out hard copies for them? Good lord. Get a life. Embarrassing

[Cecil Terwilliger]

If you don’t have a phone or a debit/credit card, being able to go to flames games is the least of your worries. Within 10 years you won’t be able to function as a member of society, if not already applicable.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by The Familia

Just another stupid move on behalf of CSEC. Since when has cash become unacceptable? If the majority of people use touchless payment anyways, how do a few hundred people who prefer cash inconvenience the rest? Instead of limiting and restricting people, shouldn't they be expanding things so that there are options that suit everyone? Especially coming back from Covid where every dollar helps. Believe it or not, but there are older people who don't use cell phones or have credit cards. You have effectively blocked them out. I rarely use cash as I collect travel points on my VISA, but I think this is a dumb move. I don't buy the whole "covid" thing either as there are still hundreds of touch points all over the arena.

every stadium is going this way...most of the big ones in the US already are cashless

keeping change on hand for a few hundred people that prefer cash not to mention how much cash slows things down is a major inconvenience for everybody.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by The Familia

We build wheel chair ramps to accommodate the small population of people who are in a wheelchair to make their life easier. Why can’t the Flames accommodate the small group of people who want hard copy tickets or don’t have phones or cards and want to pay with cash? I don’t see the request being out of line.

I don't think you're allowed to call people who don't have a debit card "disabled."

But I also think the difference between someone in a wheelchair trying to enter a building without a ramp and someone without a debit card trying to pay in a place that doesn't take cash is that the person in the wheelchair cannot just go to the bank and acquire the ability to walk (for free!).

Debit cards have been around for almost 30 years. It's ok to leave portions of society behind when they get to the point where they're actively choosing to be literally decades behind the rest of society. If a cashless world doesn't get them, soon enough, death will.

[flamingreen]

Originally Posted by Knightslayer

I haven't used cash in years but I still disagree with this. My mom is a huge Flames fan and goes to a few games a year and now won't be able to buy anything there since she doesn't use a card at all. She's old school and nothing will make her change her ways.

Who wants to bet the Saddledome still has those faucets where everyone touches instead of upgrading to touchless? That's how we will know if this decision was actually about safety.

Your mom refuses to change so the Flames shouldn't either?

[dino7c]

If you have a bank account you have a debit card...unless you lost it or opened an account in the 80s and haven't been back since. Its not like its some exclusive club.

The raiders new stadium went cashless and people were threatening to boycott on social media...Every game sold out in a few minutes

[CASe333]

Originally Posted by The Familia

I’m not change resistant and I personally do not have a problem paying with credit. I do know a few people, however, that do have an issue with not being able to pay with cash. Maybe they are change resistant, maybe they aren’t. Who am I to say.

Originally Posted by Knightslayer

I haven't used cash in years but I still disagree with this. My mom is a huge Flames fan and goes to a few games a year and now won't be able to buy anything there since she doesn't use a card at all. She's old school and nothing will make her change her ways.

Easy solution is for you to buy or help them buy a prepaid card. They work just like cash but the change is left on the card. I'm sure everyone knows about this but it's such an easy solution for anyone who refuses to use debit or credit. The card is as good as cash and the only difference is you don't get a bunch of filthy change. Yes you have to use the internet to order one but its easier than an ATM since you don't need to leave home. If you have a loved one that refuses not to use cash and is missing out buy them a few $100 cards.

[Knightslayer]

Originally Posted by flamingreen

Your mom refuses to change so the Flames shouldn't either?

Cash is legal tender.

Like I said we will find out if this is actually a safety issue when you visit a saddledome washroom and they have or don't have touchless faucets and/or touchless hand dryers.

[jroc]

On the flip side of this, I popped into the bagel shop on Heritage and Elbow a couple months ago then instantly walked out when I saw the 'cash only' sign. I'm sure I missed out on some good bagels, but who the hell carries cash!?

You'd think they'd be better off paying their 3% merchant fee to the credit card companies versus all the people like me that turn around and walk out. Heck, just raise you're prices to pass that off to the consumer.

Edit: I guess it's more than the 3% merchant fee as cash could obviously be unclaimed revenue, but still...

[flamingreen]

Originally Posted by Knightslayer

Cash is legal tender.

Like I said we will find out if this is actually a safety issue when you visit a saddledome washroom and they have or don't have touchless faucets and/or touchless hand dryers.

I know cash is - but as others have stated, that only matters when it comes to paying debts. Literally anything can be used as payment as long as the seller and buyer agree. In this case, the CSEC is saying they are not accepting cash.

I don't really buy that they strongly believe this is a huge safety issue and rather it is more about making their transactions more efficient, lowering their costs, and building a database of purchasing habits of their clients for the purpose of targeted marketing and promotions.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by memphusk

What happens when someone's bank is down? Do you need to come with cards for all banks?

I don't think I've ever seen a situation where an outage affected only one bank. Usually, if a system is down, it's either Interac or the credit card companies (or both) all going down at once.

Obviously, there's a risk it happens during a game and they won't be able to make any sales, but they must be willing to take that chance. I wonder if that's something they could get insurance against?

[TheScorpion]

Wrote up a story about this for FlamesNation. Few hours later, the Facebook post sharing the post has over 300 comments (!!) — many calling the policy illegal, and tons of other disinformation.

Ended up having to update the story with a clarification ... no, it's not illegal.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by getbak

I don't think I've ever seen a situation where an outage affected only one bank. Usually, if a system is down, it's either Interac or the credit card companies (or both) all going down at once.

Obviously, there's a risk it happens during a game and they won't be able to make any sales, but they must be willing to take that chance. I wonder if that's something they could get insurance against?

It happened for summerslam at allegiant stadium in vegas this year, everything was down, the network which handles the cashless system

They ended up just giving free food and drinks to people from what I read

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Less touching dirty paper & coins.

I don’t get the dirty paper and coins thing. How many people have touched the bills in your wallet in the last 24 hrs? How many have touched the debit terminal?

It’s like when buffets have tongs for items like cookies. Can’t have someone pick up a cookie with their hands - they might brush a finger against a cookie someone else will take. No, instead use these tongs 100 people will all handle.

[CASe333]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I don’t get the dirty paper and coins thing. How many people have touched the bills in your wallet in the last 24 hrs? How many have touched the debit terminal?

It’s like when buffets have tongs for items like cookies. Can’t have someone pick up a cookie with their hands - they might brush a finger against a cookie someone else will take. No, instead use these tongs 80 people will all handle.

Except for the whole ritual where we touch and pull the bill or coin out exactly right before we hand it over. Same for the change you get back which has just been handled. I can't believe you are actually this thick.