08-05-2021, 12:58 PM
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#2681
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GOAT!
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What about sending him to Ottawa instead of STL?
Tkachuk and Zary/Pelletier for Stuzle and 2022 1st
Backlund, Zary/Pelletier, our 2022 1st and Ottawa's 2022 1st for Eichel
Gaudreau Eichel Mangiapane
Coleman Monahan Lindholm
Lucic Stuzle Dube
Yadda Yadda Yadda
Edit: Plus we'd have a boatload of cap space from shipping both Tkachuck and Backlund out... maybe another trade swapping Monahan+ for a top six RW? (Like maybe Nylander?)
Last edited by FanIn80; 08-05-2021 at 01:02 PM.
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08-05-2021, 01:01 PM
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#2682
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Ottawa ain't trading Stutzle. He's the face of their franchise and the most important player for their future.
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08-05-2021, 01:01 PM
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#2683
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
What about sending him to Ottawa instead of STL?
Tkachuk and Zary/Pelletier for Stuzle and 2022 1st
Backlund, Zary/Pelletier, our 2022 1st and Ottawa's 2022 1st for Eichel
Gaudreau Eichel Mangiapane
Coleman Monahan Lindholm
Lucic Stuzle Dube
Yadda Yadda Yadda
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I wasn't aware that we drafted the Yadda brothers!?!
Wow we are going to be a powerhouse.
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08-05-2021, 01:02 PM
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#2684
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Franchise Player
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If this plays out with Tkachuk leaving town under these circumstances…Calgary foolishly booed Dion at the Dome for years and years.
Tkachuk will become an absolute villain in the Dome.
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08-05-2021, 01:03 PM
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#2685
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Honestly this just gets me back to where I was a couple of weeks ago. I used to be under the belief that the only chance of getting Eichel here is using Tkachuk as a trade chip. I had convinced myself that maybe a heavier futures package around Monahan could work for both sides and would work better for the Flames as they could send out a truly elite top line and top 6.
I am just now back in the thought process that we need to use Tkachuk as our main trade chip and I think it should be easier to get a deal done that way.
People also saying “why would the Blues give up anything for Tkachuk now when they have him for free in 2 years” I don’t think that id a risk the Blues have interest in taking. The Flames could send Tkachuk to many markets that I think would have a shot at extending him. California (doubtful due to division), New York, Florida/Tampa, Boston, Philly, Pittsburgh etc all will have interest. The Blues are also a team that is aging quickly but still have some solid pieces in their prime so getting Tkachuk now makes sense to push to win ASAP and get Tkachuk at 23 years old.
Tarasenko will not come to Calgary and is not part of this deal in my opinion. He is the first domino to fall. Once he is moved out then I see a situation where the Flames work a 3 way deal with the Sabres and Blues or 2 separate deals
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08-05-2021, 01:03 PM
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#2686
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GOAT!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Ottawa ain't trading Stutzle. He's the face of their franchise and the most important player for their future.
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Fair... but both Tkachuks!
Ps. Stuzle stood out to me as someone I would want, just from watching the CGY OTT games.... but I didn't know he was that good and considered the face of the franchise. I thought that was B. Tkachuk.
Edit: Just looked him up... I didn't even realize he was a 3rd overall pick... yikes. No wonder he looked really good out there lol.
Last edited by FanIn80; 08-05-2021 at 01:08 PM.
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08-05-2021, 01:05 PM
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#2687
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Franchise Player
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Does anyone think Tkachuk is a 9M player?
Marchand makes 6.1M
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08-05-2021, 01:07 PM
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#2688
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#1 Goaltender
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08-05-2021, 01:08 PM
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#2689
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Does anyone think Tkachuk is a 9M player?
Marchand makes 6.1M
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If you compare Marchand’s contract to anyone else’s, 95% of players are overpaid…
Matthew Tkachuk’s salary if he progresses into a 70 pt player with all his intangibles is an 8.5MM player.
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08-05-2021, 01:10 PM
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#2690
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Niemo
If you compare Marchand’s contract to anyone else’s, 95% of players are overpaid…
Matthew Tkachuk’s salary if he progresses into a 70 pt player with all his intangibles is an 8.5MM player.
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The salary cap was continuing to rise, it was also part of that inflation. Flat cap is more a 7.5-8. How much money do you pay for between the leg goals?
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08-05-2021, 01:12 PM
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#2691
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Does anyone think Tkachuk is a 9M player?
Marchand makes 6.1M
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Barring any epic season by Tkachuk, he isn’t worth 9m .
However, you can’t really compare his contract to Marchand, even if they play identical games.
Marchand signed his 8 year deal after having 61 points in 77 games in 15/16. He’s been a PPG player since that deal was signed. Had he not signed that deal prior to the start of 16/17 where he really started to break out, I think he could’ve easily made +10% if not more on his current contract.
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08-05-2021, 01:14 PM
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#2692
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
Moving him or Lindholm to the wing would be a painless solution.
Lindholm can take draws if needed, even if he's bumped to the wing.
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Gaudreau Eichel Tarasenko
Mangiapane Lindholm Monahan
Not terrible but I'd rather if we traded for a natural RWer instead of playing Monahan. If centers truly are more valuable than wingers, we should be able to improve the 2nd line a lot by moving him.
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08-05-2021, 01:16 PM
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#2693
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Gaudreau Eichel Lindholm
Mangiapane Monahan Coleman
Lucic Backlund Dube
Pitlick Lewis Ritchie
Mix and match the bottom six as much as you want.
There everyone slots right into the place best. Not over reaching.
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08-05-2021, 01:20 PM
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#2694
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Niemo
If you compare Marchand’s contract to anyone else’s, 95% of players are overpaid…
Matthew Tkachuk’s salary if he progresses into a 70 pt player with all his intangibles is an 8.5MM player.
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Fair for Marchand but I have a hard time with Tkachuk at 8.5 too.
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08-05-2021, 01:21 PM
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#2695
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Uncle Chester
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So SOB was right?
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08-05-2021, 01:26 PM
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#2696
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Gaudreau-Eichel-Lindholm
Coleman-Monahan-Tarasenko
Dube-Backlund-Kyrou
Lucic-Lewis-Pitlick
Thats an all in line up I ever saw one.
Last edited by dammage79; 08-05-2021 at 01:29 PM.
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08-05-2021, 01:26 PM
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#2697
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
Gaudreau Eichel Tarasenko
Mangiapane Lindholm Monahan
Not terrible but I'd rather if we traded for a natural RWer instead of playing Monahan. If centers truly are more valuable than wingers, we should be able to improve the 2nd line a lot by moving him.
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Gaudreau-Eichel-Lindholm
Mangiapane-Monahan-Kyrou
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08-05-2021, 01:29 PM
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#2699
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Franchise Player
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This team is pretty hard to cheer for. A bunch of spineless underachievers chasing out one of the only guys that gives a ####.
Better take the side of the underachievers though, it's the Flames way.
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08-05-2021, 01:30 PM
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#2700
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Franchise Player
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Who knows if any of this is true...I would trade Tkachuk for cap/hockey reasons if the return is close to the rumors
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