Friedman: Flames have begun extension talks with Gaudreau & Eichel speculation

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

Come on Brad, get it done! This would be potential to be the best player to have ever played for the Flames IMO.

You know Jagr played for the Flames right?

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

If Eichel was a one-man show, it didn't help the Sabres much. We could easily trade for him and still be stuck in the muck.

Yep, but thats what swinging for the fences is. If it doesn't work then start over.

[cam_wmh]

I'm fairly certain, that if Eichel is traded before his NMC/NTC clauses kick in, that similarly to the Shea Weber/PK Subban trade, that the receiving club does not have to honor the clauses.

That makes Eichel more valuable. As an asset, he would be exceptionally more liquid in the many years ahead.

[dying4acup]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

I'm fairly certain, that if Eichel is traded before his NMC/NTC clauses kick in, that similarly to the Shea Weber/PK Subban trade, that the receiving club does not have to honor the clauses.

That makes Eichel more valuable. As an asset, he would be exceptionally more liquid in the many years ahead.

That is incorrect as per the terms of the new CBA.

In addition, if you are acquiring a player with the foresight of a future trade, then just don’t.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

That is incorrect as per the terms of the new CBA.

In addition, if you are acquiring a player with the foresight of a future trade, then just don’t.

Yes and No. General managers discuss what the value of every contract is and what it could be worth in trade. Then they overpay and wonder what went wrong. Realistically, how fun would it be without the mistakes. Pisses me off to no end but its good to feel something.

[djsFlames]

Thursday at 11:30pm, hunching over desktop computer:

"Do it.



Do it now!!"

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

If Eichel was a one-man show, it didn't help the Sabres much. We could easily trade for him and still be stuck in the muck.

There is no such thing as a one man show in Pro hockey.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

You know Jagr played for the Flames right?

And some guy named Jarome.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

That is incorrect as per the terms of the new CBA.

Gotcha. How did the CBA terms change, to accommodate the special clauses part of a PHC?

In addition, if you are acquiring a player with the foresight of a future trade, then just don’t.

Candidly, that's ignorant.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

And some guy named Jarome.

"Jarmoe."

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[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Dan403

Keep Backlund. Move Monohan.

I bet no one will give us anything for a Monohan.

[djsFlames]

Jarmoe Inigla, stuff of legend.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

I bet no one will give us anything for a Monohan.

Maybe a Stereohan.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Maybe a Stereohan.

Dolby?

[FanIn80]

Backlund
Kylington
Pelletier
2022 1st
2023 1st

Eichel

---‐----------‐---------------

Monahan
Dube
2022 2nd (Florida)
2022 3rd

Stützle
2022 2nd
2023 2nd

---‐----------‐---------------

Krejci 4m x 4yr

---‐----------‐---------------

In:
Eichel
Stützle
Krejci
2022 2nd (OTT)
2023 2nd (OTT)

Out:
Monahan
Backlund
Dube
Kylington
Pelletier
2022 1st (CGY)
2022 2nd (FLA)
2022 3rd (CGY)
2023 1st (CGY)

---‐----------‐---------------

Gaudreau Eichel Tkachuk
Mangipane Lindholm Coleman
Lucic Stützle Krejci
Lewis Zary Pitlick

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Yep, but thats what swinging for the fences is. If it doesn't work then start over.

If there weren't question marks about his health, I would agree, but if the worst case scenario happens, you get stuck with a $10 million anchor. Tough to start over if that happens. Especially if you are giving up 1st round picks for him.

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Backlund
Kylington
Pelletier
2022 1st
2022 2nd (Florida)
2023 2nd

Eichel

---‐----------‐---------------

Monahan
2023 1st

Stützle
2022 2nd
2023 2nd

---‐----------‐---------------

Tyler Berruzzi $4.1m x 4yr offer sheet (plus 2022 2nd compensation)

---‐----------‐---------------

In:
Eichel
Stützle
Bertuzzi
2022 2nd (OTT)
2023 2nd (OTT)

Out:
Monahan
Backlund
Kylington
Pelletier
2022 1st (CGY)
2022 2nd (CGY)
2022 2nd (FLA)
2023 1st (CGY)
2023 2nd (CGY)

Buffalo & Ottawa both hang up the phone laughing

[RedHawk12]

And Detroit matches the offer sheet and flips the bird at Treliving.

[Eric Vail]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

Come on Brad, get it done! This would be potential to be the best player to have ever played for the Flames IMO.

You must be very young. The Flames have a bunch of players who did far more than Eichel - who has been more hype than production in his career. He has played in three all star games, but that is mostly because he was the best player on a bad team who needed representation. His best season saw 82 points scored.

Here are some:
NHL Hall of Famers:
Grant Fuhr
Doug Gilmour
Phil Housley
Brett Hull
Al MacInnis
Sergei Makarov
Lanny McDonald
Joe Mullen
Joe Nieuwendyk

Retired Flames Numbers
Lanny McDonald
Jarome Iginla
Mike Vernon

Others who have accomplished far more:
Theo Fleury
Mikka Kiprusoff
Gary Roberts
Martin St. Louis
Jaromir Jagr
Mark Giordano.

There are certainly others who could be considered better players by the time Eichel's career is up.

[TheSkinner]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

I bet no one will give us anything for a Monohan.

Frank Servalli was on the Rintoul show today and he thought Monahan would have "a lot of value around the league"

His opinion is a little different than yours. Apparently he speaks to a bunch of people around the league as well.

But it doesn't make him right. Just shows there are different opinions about players everywhere. Maybe some GM's fall into the category that think he still brings value as a guy that can put up 30-30 in the right environment.