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Old 07-21-2021, 10:45 AM   #21
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Old 07-21-2021, 10:46 AM   #22
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Waiting on the return to see what Treliving missed out on.
Yes, if only Treliving had offered not to take Blackwell in Seattle's expansion draft as part of a deal a few days ago all of this could have been avoided.
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Old 07-21-2021, 10:46 AM   #23
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To be fair, it's not like the Flames could have made the same deal.
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Old 07-21-2021, 10:46 AM   #24
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The flames will trade Tkachuk to rangers and get kakko and Gio
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Yeah if he gets flipped, I’m going to be pissed.

Treliving should have retained salary and traded him ourselves.
You are forgetting other teams needed to have an open protection spot. Gio being flipped by Seattle makes more sense than them keeping him.
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Old 07-21-2021, 10:47 AM   #26
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Lol the Kraken trading Gio to the Rangers after the expansion draft is a lot different than the Flames trading him there before the expansion draft.
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Old 07-21-2021, 10:47 AM   #27
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Depending on return, Treliving should be planted on the hot seat for this.
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Are players NTC active right now? I wonder if that is somewhere Mark would have wanted to go.
Gio's NTC was relatively weak. Had to list 19 teams he can be traded to - so over half the league would have been in play. I doubt NYR is ever on such a list.
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Holy crap people think through this fully.
Calgary didn't have the same ability to trade Gio because the team on the other side would have had to expose someone else.
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Yeah if he gets flipped, I’m going to be pissed.

Treliving should have retained salary and traded him ourselves.
Because it was on the table that the Rangers or any other team would have wanted to use a protection slot on Gio or make a side deal so that Seattle wouldn't take Gio?
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Old 07-21-2021, 10:48 AM   #32
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Rangers protected D: Trouba, Lindgren, Hájek

If they would have traded him last week, the Rangers would have needed to expose one of these guys (unless they left Gio exposed).
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Depending on return, Treliving should be planted on the hot seat for this.
Why? Unless the deal is all futures, pre-expansion draft any decent player coming back would either have to be exposed or would bump a current player into exposure.

And the same applies to NYR - they'd have to expose a D.
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Old 07-21-2021, 10:49 AM   #34
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The Rangers used one of their defenceman protection slots on Libor Hajek, a 23-year-old tweener who hasn't come close to living up to expectations.

I think they could've protected Giordano.
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Holy crap people think through this fully.
Calgary didn't have the same ability to trade Gio because the team on the other side would have had to expose someone else.
We also don't have the luxury of retaining money. We need all the cap space we can get, not retain so other teams can pay guys.
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WTF how could the Flames lose a player for nothing during the expansion draft. They are the only team in the league that could happen to.
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What about the NMC? Wouldn't Gio have to agree to this trade now?
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It's like people have forgotten the whole discussion in the "exploring every option" thread. We went through the tiny number of teams who had an open D slot.
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Pretty wild page 1 is almost entirely made up of posts started by sureloss
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