07-18-2021, 08:51 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Why didn’t we trade Gio for a 2nd….. booo
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07-18-2021, 08:54 AM
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#42
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Niemo
Why didn’t we trade Gio for a 2nd….. booo
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Who had a protection slot available to take him?
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07-18-2021, 08:55 AM
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#43
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
Some teams are so deep that Seattle will have 4 or 5 very good players to choose from. Calgary has 1, who is 38, and on the decline.
Five years ago Vegas had no good signed players to choose off the Flames and had to pick a UFA. Sad state the Flames are in that in five years they really haven’t accumulated much depth
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To be honest, I like the players on the Flames protected list more than than most teams. They would have been in a tough spot protection-wise if Valimaki didn't miss a season, so in that case they may have had a few good forwards like Backlund, Dube, and Mangiapane available to protect their D.
I'd be interested to hear from Treliving if there have been players available in trade that never happened because they didn't want to lose assets in this draft.
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07-18-2021, 08:56 AM
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#44
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Toonage
Friedman already reported the cost to protect Gio was too high. Does not sound like any side deal to me
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That could have been read differently. As in protecting Gio would cost one of Andersson, Hanifin, or Tanev.
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07-18-2021, 08:58 AM
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#45
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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So you are Francis...you want one experienced high-priced Dman.
Do you take LS Gio at 38 for one season or RS PK Subban at 32 for one year? (Subban 2M more)
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07-18-2021, 08:58 AM
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#46
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Originally Posted by Wood
Toronto has a handful of nice players to pick from, but most teams don't have more than 1-2 guys that are all that impressive
Which teams have 4-5 players worth picking between?
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Probably should have said 3-4 players, but Tampa certainly has 5 good players to choose from, not including UFAs. Washington and St Louis and Colorado as well have 3-4,
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07-18-2021, 08:59 AM
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#47
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by Atodaso
That could have been read differently. As in protecting Gio would cost one of Andersson, Hanifin, or Tanev.
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The report was a 1st and a 3rd.
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07-18-2021, 08:59 AM
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Don't click that link!
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Rural Alberta
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Funny...i was thinking that same thing last night when looking at trade destinations.
Certainly a destination Gio would agree to since thats where he lives in the summer.
If Seattle takes Dermott it becomes a lot more plausible too.
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He officially moved out to Calgary full time a couple years ago but I doubt he would mind heading back home.
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07-18-2021, 08:59 AM
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#49
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Originally Posted by transplant99
So you are Francis...you want one experienced high-priced Dman.
Do you take LS Gio at 38 for one season or RS PK Subban at 32 for one year? (Subban 2M more)
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Gio everyday of the week. Subban is horrid now.
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07-18-2021, 08:59 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
So you are Francis...you want one experienced high-priced Dman.
Do you take LS Gio at 38 for one season or RS PK Subban at 32 for one year? (Subban 2M more)
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If it was my decision I would take Gio, and place the C on his jersey.
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07-18-2021, 09:01 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
My bet is still they take Derek Ryan, especially to offset the other big contracts they may take, like Price and Landeskog.
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Price has a horrible contract, $10.5 x 5 years.... He is untouchable
Great move the Habs to save their backup goalie.
Landeskog is a pending UFA, they won't select him as signing is most likely not going to occur imo
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07-18-2021, 09:02 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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07-18-2021, 09:02 AM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Probably stuck driving someone somewhere
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Subban. Hope for the bounce back, plus a great guy for marketing purposes with your new team.
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07-18-2021, 09:02 AM
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The Kracken are going to have to pick up some big contracts to hit $60 mil. Probably four or five guys with $5 mil + hits.
The key thing they’ll be looking at is term. Cap space will be just as valuable next offseason. So Voracek at three more years? Nope. But Gio at one? Looks like a slam dunk to me. Get a top-four guy to help push for a playoff spot, and if you fall short deal him at the deadline.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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07-18-2021, 09:05 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Whomever Seattle takes, I don't think they get a team as good as Las Vegas the first year. There are good goaltenders available though, but specifically on D things look pretty bare.
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07-18-2021, 09:06 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
The Kracken are going to have to pick up some big contracts to hit $60 mil. Probably four or five guys with $5 mil + hits.
The key thing they’ll be looking at is term. Cap space will be just as valuable next offseason. So Voracek at three more years? Nope. But Gio at one? Looks like a slam dunk to me. Get a top-four guy to help push for a playoff spot, and if you fall short deal him at the deadline.
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They can also sign UFA's to hit the cap floor, my guess they don't take very many big contracts.
Cap space is worth something....
With Tampa for example, I bet they take "Cal Foote"
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07-18-2021, 09:10 AM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
The Kracken are going to have to pick up some big contracts to hit $60 mil. Probably four or five guys with $5 mil + hits.
The key thing they’ll be looking at is term. Cap space will be just as valuable next offseason. So Voracek at three more years? Nope. But Gio at one? Looks like a slam dunk to me. Get a top-four guy to help push for a playoff spot, and if you fall short deal him at the deadline.
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Again....is that true?
I think they only have to get to 45M with the draft itself, and then get to 60+ with UFA and trades.
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07-18-2021, 09:10 AM
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#58
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
Probably should have said 3-4 players, but Tampa certainly has 5 good players to choose from, not including UFAs. Washington and St Louis and Colorado as well have 3-4,
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Maybe I'm out of the loop but the only player I'd want on the Flames from Washington's list is Dillon, and he's no more than a middle 6 D-man. Ovechkin isn't going anywhere
They had so few decent forwards they protected Sprong who's average at best
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07-18-2021, 09:15 AM
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#59
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Again....is that true?
I think they only have to get to 45M with the draft itself, and then get to 60+ with UFA and trades.
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Looks like about 48M?
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nhl/...715r9b87vkxwpj
At least 20 of those players must be under contract for 2021-22 and have a value between 60 and 100 percent of the upper limit ($81.5 million) of the salary cap.
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