2021 NHL Draft

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/...lottery-picks/

This mock has us taking Lucius over Sillinger. Thoughts?

I'd consider trading down if the draft went like this.

[Flamesfan05]

Wallstedt, Johnson or Lysell

[Tkachukwagon]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1411757279980916741

Link to a story by TopDown Hockey which suggests Eklund, Sillinger, Guenther and Coronato have the highest NHL star probability in the 2021 draft. The article is pretty snarky about this draft, including the below quote:

The biggest issue with this draft cohort is just that they’re not good. Scouts don’t need to watch players in order for those players to score, and this cohort is scoring at an unprecedentedly low rate. Teams slated to draft high in 2021 have walked into a relatively unfortunate position.

[dammage79]

Eww. Kent Wilson and his grumpy numpty stuff grinds my gears. If there ever was a buzz kill, he's the one. I bet he's just a delight at parties.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

https://twitter.com/user/status/1411757279980916741

Guys like Coronato (2nd), Martino (5th), Pastujov (8th), Stankovich (9th) and Sovurov (10th) all have better NHLe's than Berniers and McTavish. Even Zellweger, a defenseman, is roughly the same as them.

More reason to consider trading down if you're into projecting production.
For some reason, the USHL players all have better NHLe's than NCAA players for the most part.

For defensemen, Clarke (1st), Zellweger (2nd), Ceulemans (3rd) and Guevin (4th) are all ahead of Powers (5th) and Hughes (6th). Chayka and Lambos aren't in the top 20 for defensemen.

According to that list, Zellweger's chances of becoming an NHLer are much higher than Johnson's and Bernier's.

[Monahammer]

Sillinger remains my top choice in our slot unless guenther falls. Lysell will be drafted way too high, I think mctavish will need to change his game at the next level to be successful. I think Clarke and power are heads and shoulders above the other dmen too.

I'm warming up to the wallstedt option too.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

For some reason, the USHL players all have better NHLe's than NCAA players for the most part.

This is just a guess, but I wonder if it has anything to do with the sample size.

The USHL for a long time was virtually ignored at the draft, and only recently has been consistently producing NHL players. Since NHLe is an aggregate based on the accumulation of thousands of datapoint over numerous years, I would imagine that with a much smaller pool of data the numbers for the USHL would also be much less reliable.

[stemit14]

I think people had concerns on this board of drafting Coronato because of him pulling a Fox and refusing to sign in our market. Is that a real concern? I mean is there some indication that this player in particular could be a risk to draft because there are suggestions that he might not sign?


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[Tkachukwagon]

I’ve posted this before, but if we do trade down I’d target the Red Wings draft picks #23 and #38 for the Flames #12. We should be in the range for two of Zellweger, Stankoven, Pastujov and L’Heureux (among others).

[Roof-Daddy]

The earlier in the draft you pick a college guy, the less risk there is of him waiting the 4 years to get his free agent status. Fox was a 3rd rounder and no where near ready to go pro, plus he was an ivy leaguer. A lot easier for a guy like him to wait his 4 years, or at least say he's going to wait his 4 years than for a guy who is getting picked in the top 10 or 15 and will want to get a pro contract signed sooner rather than later.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Sillinger smells like another Sam Bennett. Doesn't use his linemates well at all and tries to beat the other team all by himself. Don't like what I see or read.

[1qqaaz]

I think Sillinger can do a pullup.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

I’ve posted this before, but if we do trade down I’d target the Red Wings draft picks #23 and #38 for the Flames #12. We should be in the range for two of Zellweger, Stankoven, Pastujov and L’Heureux (among others).

Don’t know why people want to trade down. It’s suppose to be a terrible draft. If anything we should be trading up.

[Sandman]

LHD Daniel Laatsch,6'5"181lbs (Sioux City,USHL): 51gp/2g/17a/19pts,18PIM. Passed over in last year's draft. 1st round pick, 7th overall in the 2020 USHL Draft. The most enticing qualities about him are his size, and mobility-he's a good skater, especially for a big man. He's elusive, with a long, powerful stride, and good acceleration-he's even good going backwards. Covers a lot of ice very quickly, and has strong edges to adapt to quick players. Excellent defensive skills and awareness-he shuts down plays with his size and stick. Applies great pressure to puck-carriers, and makes it difficult to find open space. Defends quite well in front of his net, and keeps the crease clear. Laatsch has good power in both his wristshot, and his slapper. Strong vision, and well-developed passing skills-he can find teammates in traffic, and he can make some dazzling stretch passes through the neutral zone in transition. Angles off opponents along the boards to have a positioning advantage, using his size well. Good competitor, wins battles in the trenches.

Laatsch has the potential to develop more of an offensive game, especially as he was seen as "offensive-minded' at lower levels. He needs to fill out his frame and get stronger to handle players at the next level. Central Scouting gives him a "C" rating, meaning they expect him to be picked between the 4th, and 6th rounds. DL has the chance to be a bottom-pairing, shutdown D who plays the PK. Committed to the University of Wisconsin.

[Sandman]

C Sami Paivarinta,5'9"159lbs (Lukko U20): 36gp/9g/24a/33pts, and contributed 9pts in 8 playoff games. 28th in league scoring, 5th for players under 18. Also played in the U-18s, with 3pts in 7 games. Lukko's top-line C, leading the team to to a championship, deserves credit for taking a backseat in the U-18s, to play 3rd line and PK. He plays with quickness and energy, and is a selfless team player, who will take on any role he's given, and excel. High-level vision and playmaking, and a sound two-way game-he forechecks hard, supports pucks, battles along the boards, and supports his D down low. Big-time nuisance to his opponents. Plays well on both sides of special teams. Strong skater and stickhandler, he must work on his strength, and his shot. 3rd-5th round.

RHD Victor Sjoholm,5'9"172lbs (HV71,J20): 15gp/0g/5a/5pts. Also had stops in the men's leagues, the Hockeyettan (12gp/2g/3a/5pts) and the SHL (8 games, no points), and 1pt in 7 games at the U-18s in a shutdown role. Skates well, and competes hard every shift. Excellent in his own end, and thrives when facing top players of the opposing team. Quite tough, very dependable, and brings energy-he doesn't back down in physical situations. Reads the game well in all three zones. When the puck is dumped in, he's the first player there to start a fast breakout. Crisp, accurate 1st passer, but he can also carry it out, and transition himself. Gives opponents little time to be creative. Sjoholm has an offensive side that doesn't match the numbers he put up this year. 3rd-5th round.

C/RW Linus Sjodin, 6'0"168lbs (Rogle BK,J20): 19gp/5g/13a/18pts,37PIM, 12th for players under 19, his p/gp (0.95) is very close to Rosen (1.0). Pure playmaker with soft hands, and highly aware of his surroundings, Opens up passing lanes to secure crisp, accurate passes. Quick feet, good acceleration. Plays well in transition-gets the puck to his wingers, or is confident in carrying it out himself. Defensively, he's quite good, often the best on his team-very good positionally, and his stickwork is second to none. Sky-high defensive awareness, he covers for his D when they make a move forward, Battles along the walls, and in front of the net, and has great puckhandling and control. Excellent on the PP, as it gives him more time and options. Needs more strength to win battles, and a better top speed. Some of his decision-making could use a tune-up as well. 3rd-5th round.

C Jeremi Tammela,5'9"179lbs (Lukko U20): 34gp/16g/16a/32pts, and contributed 10pts in 8 playoff games. Short, but built like a tank, he won't be 18 until Sept 12th. 6th in scoring for players under 18, just behind his teammate, Paivarinta. Elite play-driver, his CF% of 59% was 4% above his team. Speedy and agile sniper with pinpoint accuracy. Plays with bite, and will go to battle anywhere on the ice, and can outmuscle larger opponents. He has a physical side, and will dish out hits. Looks for open space to receive passes in high-danger, and is a threat from the half-wall on the PP. Shows game-breaking ability, and to do it in the playoffs against a stingy Karpat team makes his accomplishments even more impressive. Tammela has some issues finding teammates for passes when under pressure, and he needs to learn how to better utilize them. Look for him in the late rounds.

[Sandman]

LHD Valtteri Koskela,5'10"157lbs (JYP U20): 23gp/7g/5a/12pts. 15th for players under 19 in p/gp. Also saw time in the Liiga (33gp/1g/7a/8pts-5th for players under 19). Solid two-way defender, and Swiss Army knife-plays both sides of special teams, and both sides of the ice. Nice blend of stay-at-home D, with aggression in joining the rush. He's confident and poised with the puck, and displays transitional smarts. Moves the puck well under pressure from forecheckers.

Koskela's ability to move the puck out of danger often enables his team to exit with control-he can make crisp, accurate breakout passes, or skate it through the neutral zone himself. Solid on his skates, with fine four-way mobility and balance, all giving him good gap control. Adept at breaking up rushes, often in the middle zone. He works hard, battles for pucks, and finishes his checks. Quick stick to disrupt plays, dislodge pucks, and tie up other players' sticks. Despite his size, he protects the puck well. Disciplined in his rush defense, he lets the attacker make the first move, then reacts with smarts. Plays attackers close, limiting time and space, forcing turnovers, and limiting time spent for JYP in their own zone. He has a wide array of tools offensively, but he mostly keeps things simple, getting pucks deep, and sending smart passes to keep play alive-but he needs to learn to be more creative. Needs to also build a better, stronger shot. For a player his age to spend 33 games in the Liiga is impressive.5th/6th round.

[Sandman]

C/RW Ilya Ivantsov,5'10"154lbs (SKA-1946 St.Petersburg,MHL): 53gp/8g/25a/33pts,43PIM, 8th in the MHL for players under 18, and second behind Poltapov for assists. 5pts in 7 games, with 12PIM, wearing the "A" for Russia at the U-18s, and earned a game in the KHL along the way. Plays the PK, and the PP. Good skater, with balance and agility, and strong edges.

Ivantsov is a fantastic passer, with great playmaking ability. Makes brilliant plays from behind the net, or off the right-side wall on the PP. Incredibly high offensive IQ-he makes a lot of short area passes that spring big chances for his team. Grinds along the boards, and around the net to win possession, and wins 50/50 confrontations more often than not. He's a stud defensively-has a keen awareness of the play, and how to stop it. Sharp positioning, and a smart, quick stick. Focused and intense, he works hard and throws his body around, and can be a little bit mean and nasty. Stalwart at defending the rush. His shot is sneaky and dangerous, but he needs to work on getting more power behind it. He also needs to get bigger and stronger, and add another level to his skating. 4th/5th round.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Don’t know why people want to trade down. It’s suppose to be a terrible draft. If anything we should be trading up.

By trading down, you give up quality in exchange for quantity. Whether or not this is a terrible draft, it is certainly the least scouted draft in history, because so many of the players have hardly played for a year. If there aren't many high-end prospects, and nobody knows for sure which ones they are, you might as well go for quantity. It's not as if you're guaranteed to get quality no matter how early you pick.

[stemit14]

Coronato is really intriguing to me. Not sure why he’s ranked below a bunch of guys that he seemingly has outpaced in the year. People are loving what they see in Cole Caufield in these playoffs… I think Coronato is the closest comparison I’ve seen in this draft class. Anyone see any major reasons not to take him at 12 if he’s there? I guess it could be partly because he’s a winger and teams always prefer to prioritize centremen, most things being equal.

But he’s a right-handed shot that loves to shoot. Some say he has the best shot in the draft class. A pure right-handed shooter on his off-wing is a key element in any consistently productive powerplay - not the only element of course - but a valuable one for sure.


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[Sandman]

RHD Jonathan Myrenberg,6'2"190lbs (Linkoping HC J20): 15gp/3g/5a/8pts, 6th for defensemen under 18, playing on Linkoping's top pair. He was loaned to Sollentuna HC of the Hockeyettan, registering 6pts in 9 games, 3rd for D-men under 18, 2nd in p/gp. He also contributed 4pts in 6 games for Sollentuna in the playoffs. Very good numbers for a kid his age in Sweden's third-tier league.

JM is an all-around D, who is calm under pressure, and plays both sides of special teams. Solid skater, with great 4 way mobility-smooth with, or without the puck. His deceptive edge work makes him evasive. Gifted when it comes to zone entries with possession, and his ability to carry the puck makes him an asset in transition. Orchestrates the breakout with crisp, accurate passes, and carries well with outstanding puck-control and stickhandling. Accurate first-passer. His wrist-shot is a laser, and his one-timer is a cannon, and he can score from anywhere. He's a defensive presence with his physicality, and likes to step up at the blueline. He reads the play well, and makes it hard on opponents to be creative, by taking away time and space. Plays with aggression and a mean streak, and likes to lay big hits. He competes hard, and makes his impression felt. Forces players into physical situations, where he is highly effective. Opens passing lanes with his quick feet, and takes advantage with his solid passing skills. Sharp IQ and vision in all zones.

Myrenberg is quite raw, and still developing physically-he's very lanky right now, so he needs to fill in and get stronger in order to play his style in the NHL. His backwards skating is a concern, but can be improved with coaching-he will need this skill to deal with speedy wingers. All in all, he's got a great toolkit to work with, and put up good numbers when he got the chance to play pro in Sweden. 4th-6th round.