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dino7c · 06-21-2021, 08:39 PM

"might want out"

what kind of rumor is that lol

Might/might not

mrdonkey · 06-21-2021, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PepsiFree

This comment probably sounded better in your head.

It's baffling that a franchise so perpetually mediocre has so many untouchable players every summer and the fanbase is totally on board with it.

nik- · 06-21-2021, 08:40 PM

Country club locker room chasing out the player with the highest give a #### level.

What a team to be a fan of. FML.

dino7c · 06-21-2021, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Two years ago, maybe. How many disgruntled 2nd line wingers are coming up on a $9 million pay day?

You mean the last full NHL season

dino7c · 06-21-2021, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mrdonkey

It's baffling that a franchise so perpetually mediocre has so many untouchable players every summer and the fanbase is totally on board with it.

who said untouchable? quote one person

"2nd line winger" was the issue I think

Jiri Hrdina · 06-21-2021, 08:44 PM

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Boy, the Flames sure aren't doing so hot for a team with so many amazing, valuable players who love being here.

How about you actually try to discuss topics instead of taking every chance to take a pee all over the Flames? Why are you even a fan?
What a miserable way to be.

chedder · 06-21-2021, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kyuss275

Jesus this Tkachuk rumour better not be true. We need more players that want to go to war every game, not less. Tkachuks game did a 180 for the worse right after that players meeting. The captain should have put an end to that discussion the second it was brought up that Tkachuk should take it easy. I’d have no problem with the gm trading any player that thought Tkachuk needs to not got to war every night. I don’t know how but Calgary has had a country club vibe ever since the cup final run.

I'm guessing its 100% more than rumour and most likely true. When Chucky was on his game and scoring as well as mixing it up he was awesome. When we wasn't scoring and only cheap shotting and mouthing off, not so much. I think most fans believe that he won't be a Flame long term so might as well rip the bandaid off now and see what you can get for him.

Jiri Hrdina · 06-21-2021, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mrdonkey

It's baffling that a franchise so perpetually mediocre has so many untouchable players every summer and the fanbase is totally on board with it.

This board has been pretty consistent in it's desire to what significant changes to the team.

Baseless and inaccurate.

1qqaaz · 06-21-2021, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

"might want out"

what kind of rumor is that lol

Might/might not

I haven't listened to the podcast, as far I know it might be Shane O'Brien trying to be relevant.

PepsiFree · 06-21-2021, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mrdonkey

It's baffling that a franchise so perpetually mediocre has so many untouchable players every summer and the fanbase is totally on board with it.

Neat. Not sure what that has to do with Tkachuk not being a second line winger.

dino7c · 06-21-2021, 08:48 PM

I think almost everyone here would trade Tkachuk and a 1st for Eichel...its been talked about almost non-stop

untouchable is different than not wanting to give players away. If Tkachuk is available there will be a lot of offers.

mrdonkey · 06-21-2021, 08:50 PM

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Neat. Not sure what that has to do with Tkachuk not being a second line winger.

Perhaps you can explain to me why a player with one season above 61 points and a career 0.33 playoff PPG should be considered a surefire, undisputed 1st line winger? Nevermind the upcoming contract situation that almost surely mitigates his value as a trade commodity.

He plays on the second line of a bubble team and puts up second line numbers. This isn't as outlandish as you make it sound.

GioforPM · 06-21-2021, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Perhaps you can explain to me why a player with one season above 61 points and a career 0.33 playoff PPG should be considered a surefire, undisputed 1st line winger? Nevermind the upcoming contract situation that almost surely mitigates his value as a trade commodity.

He plays on the second line of a bubble team and puts up second line numbers. This isn't as outlandish as you make it sound.

What are you saying the first line was? Mangiapane - Monahan - Ritchie?

mrdonkey · 06-21-2021, 08:58 PM

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What are you saying the first line was? Mangiapane - Monahan - Ritchie?

For better or for worse, Gaudreau-Monahan-Ritchie (and before you ask, I think two of those three would be second line players on a championship team as well, based on their recent play, and the other doesn't belong in the NHL at all).

Bonded · 06-21-2021, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Perhaps you can explain to me why a player with one season above 61 points and a career 0.33 playoff PPG should be considered a surefire, undisputed 1st line winger? Nevermind the upcoming contract situation that almost surely mitigates his value as a trade commodity.

He plays on the second line of a bubble team and puts up second line numbers. This isn't as outlandish as you make it sound.

If you are going to crap on players at least put some effort in. Tkachuk is 6th in scoring for left wings since he entered the league.

Spoiler!

Look who is number 4. Too bad they are not centers.

DoubleK · 06-21-2021, 09:02 PM

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thats not really apples to apples though.

Fair. Both have made their fair share if bonehead moves.

1qqaaz · 06-21-2021, 09:15 PM

Gaudreau and Tkachuk are both bona fide top line left wings.
That's why it makes sense to trade one of them. If Tkachuk were a second line left wing, there wouldn't be a surplus at that position.

If they had two number one centers, or two number 1 defensemen, that would be a different story.

It seems like Gaudreau is more willing to sign a reasonable long term contract. And it seems like Tkachuk might not be happen with his usage under Sutter.
Can't wait for the draft so I can stop speculating so much (hopefully).

Vinny01 · 06-21-2021, 09:16 PM

Looking at the HF thread there are plenty of great offers from other fans

Devils fans offered Holtz+4th overall.

Some Sens fans throwing a bunch of meh pieces but there are others who know Stutzle would need to be on the table.

Lots of people thinking a deal around Eichel makes sense.

PepsiFree · 06-21-2021, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Perhaps you can explain to me why a player with one season above 61 points and a career 0.33 playoff PPG should be considered a surefire, undisputed 1st line winger? Nevermind the upcoming contract situation that almost surely mitigates his value as a trade commodity.

He plays on the second line of a bubble team and puts up second line numbers. This isn't as outlandish as you make it sound.

Because that production is in line with a 1st line winger.

Perhaps you can explain to everyone what you think a 1st line winger is. I’ll help you start your research, there’s about 60 of them every year. Good luck, let us know what you find out.

TheScorpion · 06-21-2021, 09:20 PM

A Tkachuk trade has the potential to land Calgary some pretty nice pieces, without a doubt. Don't think it's something that can be dismissed out of hand, but it's also not something that should be considered necessary.