05-26-2021, 05:37 PM
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#221
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Originally Posted by zamler
Who says they "tested positive" for alcohol?
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Meh. Think breathalyzer
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05-26-2021, 05:40 PM
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#222
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Franchise Player
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"Got a DUI, blew positive"
now before I get banned from CP for getting a DUI this is hypothetical
Odd phrasing but its not like Ron hasn't reached for a joke before
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05-26-2021, 05:48 PM
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#223
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Lifetime Suspension
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I've never heard that phrasing. Either way in my view MacLean is not a "believable witness".
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05-26-2021, 05:52 PM
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#224
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Scoring Winger
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Just retire Ron. You had your run.
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05-26-2021, 05:58 PM
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#225
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
OK, but I still maintain that this explanation makes no sense whatsoever. Even leaving aside the notion that someone would be "positive for rum" - as if that's a thing anyone has ever said in the history of the English language - the notion that having a shirtless picture of a guy on the shelf behind you would entail that you've had too much to drink is such a total non sequitur that it doesn't even qualify as a joke.
I guess I'll believe him because it's not like he has a history of saying this kind of stuff the way Cherry does but... yeah. Still makes no sense.
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Yeah, the story is kinda lame, but it causes no harm to say “OK, Ron, all good”.
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05-26-2021, 06:26 PM
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#226
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
OK, but I still maintain that this explanation makes no sense whatsoever. Even leaving aside the notion that someone would be "positive for rum" - as if that's a thing anyone has ever said in the history of the English language - the notion that having a shirtless picture of a guy on the shelf behind you would entail that you've had too much to drink is such a total non sequitur that it doesn't even qualify as a joke.
I guess I'll believe him because it's not like he has a history of saying this kind of stuff the way Cherry does but... yeah. Still makes no sense.
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The explanation is perfectly fine and sensible.
He didn't say 'positive for rum', he said 'positive for something', which could very well mean he was joking that Bieksa is high (and in a joking sense, I agree with him).
The words were unfortunate (though not a big deal, IMO), but the explanation makes perfect sense.
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05-26-2021, 06:33 PM
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#228
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
The explanation is perfectly fine and sensible.
He didn't say 'positive for rum', he said 'positive for something', which could very well mean he was joking that Bieksa is high (and in a joking sense, I agree with him).
The words were unfortunate (though not a big deal, IMO), but the explanation makes perfect sense.
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Ron literally said he meant the rum in his b.s. apology.
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05-26-2021, 06:49 PM
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#229
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Scoring Winger
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Is Ron MacLean in trouble?
Nm
Last edited by Matt Reeeeead; 05-26-2021 at 07:26 PM.
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05-26-2021, 06:52 PM
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#230
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I actually don't get what he said. It didn't make any sense to me.
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05-26-2021, 06:59 PM
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#231
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I actually don't get what he said. It didn't make any sense to me.
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Ya I think he just stumbled through an awkward joke that didn’t land or make sense. He might be a big of an idiot, but hardly needs to be analyzed as a homophobe.
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05-26-2021, 07:22 PM
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#232
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Powerplay Quarterback
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He would apologize for anything asked of him whether he did it or not just to keep his job.
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05-26-2021, 07:59 PM
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#233
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
OK, but I still maintain that this explanation makes no sense whatsoever. Even leaving aside the notion that someone would be "positive for rum" - as if that's a thing anyone has ever said in the history of the English language - the notion that having a shirtless picture of a guy on the shelf behind you would entail that you've had too much to drink is such a total non sequitur that it doesn't even qualify as a joke.
I guess I'll believe him because it's not like he has a history of saying this kind of stuff the way Cherry does but... yeah. Still makes no sense.
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Bieksa said “I’m positive” first so Maclean tried to tie it together as positive for somethin. It was a joke that fell flat. Trying to make it make sense is senseless.
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05-26-2021, 09:38 PM
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#234
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Bieksa said “I’m positive” first so Maclean tried to tie it together as positive for somethin. It was a joke that fell flat. Trying to make it make sense is senseless.
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Agreed.
I think you have to be searching for cancelling people if one actually reviews the context in earnest and believes it’s an aids or homophobia joke.
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05-26-2021, 10:36 PM
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#235
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Bieksa said “I’m positive” first so Maclean tried to tie it together as positive for somethin. It was a joke that fell flat. Trying to make it make sense is senseless.
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Like I said, I'll take his word for it. But basically, what we're saying here is that Ron haphazardly and clumsily threw some words together into a sentence that he just sort of hoped might work as a joke, and just by pure coincidence, that particular arrangement of words did in fact form a coherent, functioning joke that - unintentionally - happened to be utterly horrifying when taken at face value.
Which is... astounding. But I guess that's what happened.
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05-26-2021, 10:51 PM
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#236
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Scoring Winger
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No it was completely incoherent either way you splice it. It’s not like it rolled off the tongue naturally either way.
You also make it sound like it was a planned joke and took time to analyze it.
Bieksa said something about testing positive and Ron tried to square peg an inside joke into a round hole.
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05-26-2021, 11:05 PM
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#237
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Reeeeead
No it was completely incoherent either way you splice it. It’s not like it rolled off the tongue naturally either way.
You also make it sound like it was a planned joke and took time to analyze it.
Bieksa said something about testing positive and Ron tried to square peg an inside joke into a round hole.
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Just like the rest of his ####ty jokes. He was fun and funny a bunch of years ago. His not being funny anymore doesn't help. Just give Amber the job and let Ron do hockey night in Canada once a year with some hometown stuff if they plan on keeping that around.
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05-27-2021, 12:45 AM
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#238
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Originally Posted by rubecube
I think the most hilarious part of this thread has been the hysterical right-wingers complaining about cancel culture when most of this thread and the online discourse I've seen on the topic has been "what did he mean?" and "he probably shouldn't be fired."
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I never know what to expect from you and it's wonderful. Do you white knight yourself and defend the gay population dying from aids or do you support a weasel of a privileged white man who maybe made an off the cuff joke?
I'm surprised to hear the gay community means little to you
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05-27-2021, 11:28 AM
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#239
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Franchise Player
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I like Ron Maclean. He’s very nice in person. Heard him and Cherry at a conference years ago where they just sat on stage chatting for an hour. I could have listened to them all day. Maclean said something stupid is all; I’m sure we’ve all done that but without the world watching.
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05-27-2021, 11:36 AM
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#240
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Reeeeead
No it was completely incoherent either way you splice it. It’s not like it rolled off the tongue naturally either way.
You also make it sound like it was a planned joke and took time to analyze it.
Bieksa said something about testing positive and Ron tried to square peg an inside joke into a round hole.
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And it’s been his MO for decades… has nobody watched this guy before? He has always taken something someone says and try to do something poetic. It’s annoying as all hell, and the only good thing Cherry brought to the table was eye rolling when Ron did it.
Flabbergasted that people have dug so deep into poorly executed wordplay.
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