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Old 05-25-2021, 01:14 PM   #41
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Neither one of them has anything to write home about, pretty pathetic really.
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Old 05-25-2021, 01:19 PM   #42
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I'd say its a draw.

One would have expected the Flames to do better, but they didnt. They definitely under-achieved.

The Oilers over-achieved.

In the end they are both back in the same place. Purgatory.
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In the end, at least the Oilers can still build from McDavid and Draisaitl. Who does the Flames build upon to be a Cup contender in the next two to 5 years?
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Old 05-25-2021, 01:22 PM   #44
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]In the end, at least the Oilers can still build from McDavid and Draisaitl.[/B] Who does the Flames build upon to be a Cup contender in the next two to 5 years?
Oh yeah. And thats been going so well thus far.

Its not like they just joined the team yesterday. They've kinda been there for a while at this point and the Oilers have.....accomplished nothing.
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Old 05-25-2021, 01:26 PM   #45
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Flames were more disappointing tbh. But I bet nobody expected the Oilers to get swept after McDavid’s regular season dominance
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Old 05-25-2021, 01:28 PM   #46
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Oilers! They got to the play-offs and didn't win a single game! They didn't dominate at any time during those games. They had "chances" to score but with the Jets, any of their lines were a threat. All those guys bought in. Only a few can "buy-in" on the Oilers because not everyone gets to play enough to make an impact. Add to that... they had one game where it looked like, finally, they're righting the ship. Nope. Suckered punched! (They never see it coming)

Flames did not make it in but that was becoming more of a reality as the season went on. At least the Flames know they have a lot of work ahead. A lot of people wanted them to tank and not make the play-offs anyway. They can't be more disappointed, can they?

The oilers will be figuring out how they're going to re-sign the same players (same caliber based on available cap) and hope those guys take a discount because next year is guaranteed to be hoisting the cup!

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Old 05-25-2021, 01:29 PM   #47
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Flames were more disappointing tbh. But I bet nobody expected the Oilers to get swept after McDavid’s regular season dominance
Well, I'll agree with that.

But, as hockey fans, we've all known for a long time that regular season and playoffs are effectively different games entirely.

McDavid tearing up a bunch of crappy teams in a terrible division? I put no stock in it. Its an aberration.
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Old 05-25-2021, 01:34 PM   #48
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Well, I'll agree with that.

But, as hockey fans, we've all known for a long time that regular season and playoffs are effectively different games entirely.

McDavid tearing up a bunch of crappy teams in a terrible division? I put no stock in it. Its an aberration.
I’m very much aware. We’ve all seen Johnny’s playoff struggles. But swept? You’d think Connor would’ve had at least one of his 4-5 point games. I was expecting a 6 game series at least.
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Old 05-25-2021, 01:36 PM   #49
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Still the Flames. Easily one of the most disappointing seasons in Flames history, all things considered. We (at least I) expect this type of #### from the Oilers on the yearly.
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Old 05-25-2021, 01:40 PM   #50
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Embarrassing season ? Flames hand down
Disappointing ? Closer - Many had already written the Flames core off and were expecting a best case scenario first round exit before the season. The Oilers had everything go right and got swept

Reminds me of the Flames vs Colorado season , except we actually won a playoff game

This season shows how far off both team are . If we combined the 2 teams we could give a few teams a run for their $$ though!! (Cap ignored)
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Old 05-25-2021, 02:12 PM   #51
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The Flames season was more disappointing in my books. I thought they had a better team than the Oilers at the beginning of the season and for them to miss the playoffs in a division where the Jets and the Canadiens had plenty of their own issues was a dreadful performance. While the Oilers fans had to watch their team fall short in a few overtimes against the Jets, we had to watch the Flames come up empty against the Canadiens and Senators in critical games at multiple points.

I am not nearly as a down on the team as the average fan as I think they turned their performance around dramatically with a high-end coach. However until they prove it next season I can't fault Flames fans for remaining skeptical and lacking hope.

Oilers fans are right to be frustrated and disappointed, but they got to watch their star player have a pretty spectacular regular season at least. Still sucks, but our season was worse.
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Old 05-25-2021, 02:20 PM   #52
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In reality both teams had disappointing seasons, so that's probably a wash.

I honestly think it's the Oilers though.

Flames had a bad year. Coaching changes, top players didn't look good, rookies didn't take a step etc. But honestly that happens sometimes, and I still think they aren't as bad as they showed this year and have some steps to move forward.

The Oilers though is something completely different. Draisaitl and McDavid have been the top two players in the league over the last two seasons, and they have one play in game victory to show for it.

The Flames may be more disappointing but to me the Oilers are worse because they are wasting what have been two pretty amazing seasons from their top two players.
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Old 05-25-2021, 02:44 PM   #53
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Ask yourself this...would you rather if the Flames snuck into the playoffs and got swept or have the higher pick
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Old 05-25-2021, 02:49 PM   #54
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Flames had the most disappointing season. Not making the playoffs after acquiring Tanev and Markstrom, and then being in an all-Canadian division? That's fricken disappointing.


Oilers losing in spectacular fashion in the playoffs? That constitutes "the most embarrassing".


I am fine with disappointment - that's life. I hate embarrassment.
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Old 05-25-2021, 03:03 PM   #55
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Ask yourself this...would you rather if the Flames snuck into the playoffs and got swept or have the higher pick
Flames wouldn’t have been swept, though I understand your point. Flames didn’t get swept by Colorado (a good team) or Dallas (the finalist). The Jets aren’t even a very good team.
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Old 05-25-2021, 05:17 PM   #56
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Hard to say, both teams were disappointments for different reasons.

Oilers had a guy putting up absurd numbers that put him in conversation with all-time greats. And arguably the 2nd best forward in the league as well. All they have to do is build an average roster everywhere else but they haven't done that. There's plenty of adjectives you could use for this - sad, even ridiculous?

Flames on the other hand are just a mediocre team, run by mediocre management that thought they were better than they were after years of middling decisions and asset management.
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Old 05-25-2021, 05:54 PM   #57
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There has been a lot of discussion on what the Flames would be willing to give up for Eichel (who has a significant injury cloud over his head).


What would the Flames give up for McDavid (who has been held back by playing in Edmonton)?
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Old 05-25-2021, 06:09 PM   #58
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I don't feel that Oilers really had more disappointing season than the Flames because the Oilers realistically met expectations with how their roster is. If this was a regular schedule playing all teams around the league rather than only teams in a weak division, their record likely would reflect a lot more that they would've been a playoff bubble team most likely.

The fact that once the chips were down, the Jets swept them indicates that the Oilers are a team that lack tremendous depth, which has been always the case for over a decade.

Oilers have been the most overhyped team in the league since McDavid was drafted by them. There's this expecation that they can make the playoffs and win the cup alone with McDavid. He's not that good to even make them win a playoff round by himself. He, and pretty much every other superstar player on an actual contending team need to have a strong enough supporting cast that can produces themselves to spread the attack. But with that said, McDavid's game needs to evolve from just being purely offensively explosive, to being a tough two-way player that can play the defensive game strong if he wants he wants to be able to do more for his team in the playoffs to push them forward.

This post is all Oilers, but Flames definitely had higher expectations and aspirations based on it's roster. The fact it couldn't even make the playoffs in this division is very disappointing. But may be best in the long run if it forces adjustments.
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Old 05-25-2021, 06:22 PM   #59
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Both suck but a 4 game opening round sweep is about the worst thing as a fan. You don't get to enjoy a single moment of happiness in the playoffs AND you get a lower draft pick.
I'd rather miss completely than get swept in the 1st round. 1st round sweeps just suck in every way.
Relative to expectation both failed mightily and both franchises now have real question marks about the future. What they have been doing isn't working.
Too bad Brad won't do anything to solve any of the issues this team has. Unless he's fired which I highly DOUBT, I'm confident in saying next season will yet again be another year of mediocrity.
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Old 05-25-2021, 06:26 PM   #60
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Flames.

The Oilers are the Oilers, we were SUPPOSED to make the playoffs and completely **** the bed.
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