05-19-2021, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Da_Chief
Im fine with the tough love. Also understand the veterans have "earned" the right to be not called out, I get it.
But if you're going to call out players out in public and use stats then at least get them right.
Boeser played 18 minutes, 10 shots on goal and had 2 penalties.
Dube played 13 minutes, 4 shots on goal and 1 penalty.
Backlund played 19 minutes, 4 shots on goal and 1 penalty.
So nitpick the young guy and ignore the vet on that line that was probably out there for all of Boesers 10 shots.
This will be a good thread to bump in 2 years time. Sutter's contract will be ending and Dube will no longer be a young kid. He would've either made the Flames or moved to another team or out of the league. Let's see what happens.
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But Dube plays directly against Boeser. That is his man and he let him get 10 shots
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05-19-2021, 01:42 PM
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#22
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Originally Posted by Tbull8
But Dube plays directly against Boeser. That is his man and he let him get 10 shots
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Dube played 13 minutes. Boeser played 18 minutes. There is 5 minutes of someone else playing Boeser. Thats nearly 1/3 of Boesers time, Dube wasn't even on the ice.
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05-19-2021, 01:45 PM
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#23
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbull8
But Dube plays directly against Boeser. That is his man and he let him get 10 shots
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_Chief
Dube played 13 minutes. Boeser played 18 minutes. There is 5 minutes of someone else playing Boeser. Thats nearly 1/3 of Boesers time, Dube wasn't even on the ice.
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Not to mention that the guy you line up against on a faceoff isn’t necessarily “your man” in your own zone.
Sutter was loose with his facts, at a minimum.
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05-19-2021, 01:49 PM
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#24
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Dube and Valimaki can be real thoroughbreds on this team. At least one, potentially two more levels there. Darryl knows it and he knows they need to get there if things are going to turn around.
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05-19-2021, 02:03 PM
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#25
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Can somebody give Darryl the memo that he needs to be 100% accurate, down to the nanosecond when he compares his player vs what an opposition did?
Do we really need to be that nitpicky?
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05-19-2021, 02:05 PM
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Maybe this is what Bennett needed in Year 1&2 as opposed to having thr pressure of being the highest drafted player in franchise history and a useless coach with one liners and a thought process like "team is mentally weak", "it's between the ears", "players getting motivated is not my job" mentality.
These guys will either take this as motivation and it fires them up. This makes them mentally strong in a "no one can bring me down" mentality... or this will make them crumble in the corner...which exposes them early for what they are...
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05-19-2021, 02:05 PM
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#27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff
Can somebody give Darryl the memo that he needs to be 100% accurate, down to the nanosecond when he compares his player vs what an opposition did?
Do we really need to be that nitpicky?
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Well, TBF, “he took two penalties” when Dube took one and Boeser took two is kind of egregious.
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05-19-2021, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Well, TBF, “he took two penalties” when Dube took one and Boeser took two is kind of egregious.
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That's the word you're going with, huh?
Big serious business here folks.
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05-19-2021, 02:17 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
That's the word you're going with, huh?
Big serious business here folks.
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I stand by my word choice. 
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05-19-2021, 02:19 PM
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You have to be careful with calling players out in public. Per previous comments it can light a fire. Or it can cause the player to lose call of their confidence.
I’d put Dube in the fire category. Worried about Valimaki losing his confidence.
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05-19-2021, 02:24 PM
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#31
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Originally Posted by Goriders
You have to be careful with calling players out in public. Per previous comments it can light a fire. Or it can cause the player to lose call of their confidence.
I’d put Dube in the fire category. Worried about Valimaki losing his confidence.
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I'm not worried about Dube, I think it was Francis who recently mentioned that Dube said being coached by Sutter will be good for his game. He welcomes that challenge.
Valimaki on the other hand... I'm not sure if Darryl's message will get through to him. Seemed really dopey in the one of the pre-game interviews he did in Vancouver.
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05-19-2021, 02:25 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goriders
You have to be careful with calling players out in public. Per previous comments it can light a fire. Or it can cause the player to lose call of their confidence.
I’d put Dube in the fire category. Worried about Valimaki losing his confidence.
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Why's that?
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05-19-2021, 02:26 PM
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Well they both found the scoresheet with some nice plays in the first
Can tell Valimaki is playing with low confidence right now though
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05-19-2021, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Why's that?
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Did you see his face on the bench after his giveaway to Horvat?
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05-19-2021, 02:29 PM
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Nm
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05-19-2021, 02:30 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by neo45
Did you see his face on the bench after his giveaway to Horvat?
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Yeah, but pretending we know how he is feeling, or what the long-term effect will be on a 21-year-old kid whom none of us has ever even exchanged words with is a fool's errand.
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05-19-2021, 02:32 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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This is the type of hard coaching those two players need. There's expectations for both of them, and it'll really do good for both the players themselves and the Flames if their potential can be fully utilized. So to motivate them to not be complacent, and work hard at improving this offseason and into next season is not even just a good thing, it's necessary.
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05-19-2021, 02:44 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
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this one really sticks out to me. what is the source of this entitlement and is it isolated or pervasive within the organization? is it the individual, captain/leadership, coaching, or management?
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05-19-2021, 03:35 PM
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Wow! That's harsh - but tell it as it is! I wonder what Sutter would have said about Bennett if he was still here as a Flames. LOL The word "entitlement" is really damning! I'd be embarrassed if I was those players. But you have to have thick skin in order to succeed.
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05-19-2021, 03:49 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: 110
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff
Do we really need to be that nitpicky?
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It’s an Internet message board. Nitpicky is a requirement unfortunately.
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