[News] Eichel: Sabres wouldn't let me get surgery on herniated disk in neck

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

Sounds like a frustrated young man. He is the type of player that Calgary needs. An elite C still at RFA age. Treliving should be moving heaven and earth to get this kid and then lock him up.

Still has 5 years on his contract, he's "locked up" for a good chunk.

If we can do this without giving up Tkachuk it would be a huge win. A potential future line of Gaudreau-Eichel-Tkachuk would be among the tops in the league.

Monahan
Zary
Valimaki
1st 2021

That's where I'm starting if I'm tre. It's a 1B Centre still young with two more years at a good rate and the equivalent of 3 1sts.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Sam Reinhart on the outs too?

Intriguing

[djsFlames]

Hey Jack

The Flames will, come on over.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

I would be willing to bet that Jack Eichel would have more impact on the Calgary Flames over the next 5-10 years than all six of those assets combined.

And I would also submit that if you got Jack Eichel, your chances of keeping Gaudreau increase dramatically.

You can the deal Monahan to recoup a few of those assets.

We need a star. Pay to get one.

We wouldn’t have missed the assets we should’ve given for Thornton.

We wouldn’t have missed the 3 or more 1sts it took to get MacKinnon.

We wouldn’t have missed Backlund + it would’ve taken to get O’Reilly.

If we’re going to spend, it might as well be on the most important position.

I know we’re not getting him, and it’s embarrassing that we won’t pony up the cost.

I think you need to time your events pretty carefully. You need to get a real feel for Gaudreau, including his this very question “what if we acquire Eichel”? But if he’s wavering at all, you could end up with no Gaudreau and no compensation for him, so you have to make a call very quickly on both. At the end of the day you make a deal for Eichel and then you have to get a firm yes or no from Gaudreau before the NTC kicks in.

I have no idea what Buffalo wants. They may well want Lindholm in there somehow as well.

[Igottago]

The Flames should be able to put together a very good offer. They need to go for it aggressively. Would be the best option for a re-tool.

[Roof-Daddy]

He'll be moved this off season, we'll hear all about how the Flames have been kicking tires and Treliving is "in the mix" but he will end up going to LA or Seattle is my guess. Or even the Sharks somehow, as Wilson is always making the big deals happen.

Many think the Rangers, but I don't think Buffalo will want to keep him in the East, but I guess the Rangers are in a different division so that's a strong possibility as well.

[SuperMatt18]

I want the Flames to trade for Eichel. And feel like if anything a deal around Tkachuk and Eichel would be the starting point.

Last three seasons:

Tkachuk:

GP: 201

5v5 Goals: 36
5v5 Points: 95
5V5 Points/GP: 0.47

Total Goals: 68
Total Points: 175
Total Points/GP: 0.87

xGF%: 53.67%

Eichel:

GP: 166

5v5 Goals: 34
5v5 Points: 90
5V5 Points/GP: 0.54

Total Goals: 66
Total Points: 178
Total Points/GP: 1.07

xGF%: 51.57%

Certainly doesn't feel like it would need multiple firsts and top prospects on top of Tkachuk to get it done though.

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Sam Reinhart on the outs too?

Intriguing

This is the intriguing part to me - make it a huge blockbuster

Tkachuk
Monahan
2021 1st (Unprotected)
Pelletier

for

Eichel
Reinhart

[Tbull8]

Anyone questioning Eichel's potential hasn't watched him play much. The guy single handedly dominates every time he's on the ice. There are only a handful of centermen I would say are better than him right now. Crosby Mackinnon Mcdavid Matthews, maybe Barkov

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

This is definitely headed for a divorce.

I bet he goes to the Ranges for Lafreniere.

The Sabres desperately need a centre who slot into the lineup next season. Something more than one season of Strome.

I could see a 3-way deal with the Rangers and Habs.

To Buffalo: Suzuki, MTL 1st (2021), Kravstov, Schneider.

To Montreal: Lafreniere

To New York: Eichel

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by troutman

I'd rather we draft our own 18 year old # 1 C. Jack is 24, with health issues.

I doubt it. No one is patting the Flames on the back now for Kipper winning a few meaningless games during the Barkov draft but the Flames will keep beating their heads against the wall to keep their "Winning Culture TM" while drafting 15th any chance they get.

[kyuss275]

While I would gladly hand over Tkachuk + for Eichel, I don’t think Buffalo would want Tkachuk because of contract. Is the owner going to pay that qualifying offer? He wants his team cap low. Also I could see Tkachuk wanting to get out of there as soon as possible. That team is in need of a full rebuild. Dylan cozens would have to take a huge step up in play for Tkachuk to stay. Other than cozens do they have another could be #1 center?

I don’t want to trade Tkachuk but I could see the ny rangers paying a lot for a guy like Tkachuk

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Igottago

The Flames should be able to put together a very good offer. They need to go for it aggressively. Would be the best option for a re-tool.

I'd deal either one of Tkachuk or Gaudreau with sweetener.

The likes of Cozens coming up for Buffalo could make them more open to dealing for a top line winger.

Eichel would be a good reset on the fly. I think he would be highly motivated.

[Roof-Daddy]

This is clearly setting the ground work for a public Eichel trade request where he has better legs to stand on than just "I'm sick of losing, get me out of here".

"You guys are messing with my health and not communicating with me properly, get me out of here" gets Eichel away from the Sabres without looking like the bad guy IMO.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Reinhart has also played well as a center while Eichel’s been out. Like the #2 overall he was drafted in.

If we get beat from an Eichel offer, I would make sure that we go for Reinhart as a back-up plan.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Psytic

I doubt it. No one is patting the Flames on the back now for Kipper winning a few meaningless games during the Barkov draft but the Flames will keep beating their heads against the wall to keep their "Winning Culture TM" while drafting 15th any chance they get.

Flames have drafted 15th one time in franchise history. And it was a home run pick.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

You could cut that offer in half IMO. Tkachuk, Valimaki, one of the prospects and one of the picks. That would be IMO a very competitive offer.

That's cutting it by about 25% (in total value), as you've left in the two most valuable pieces, then cut the last 4 players in half.

I think that's an excellent offer. Maybe even too much.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Flames have drafted 15th one time in franchise history.

You know what that post is getting at. We both know you know.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I agree, man, but what you're giving up in that proposal is just an exorbitant amount. It shouldn't take a great deal more than Tkachuk to make a very competitive offer. But I agree... it's imperative to win this bidding war.



Best part is, Eichel is already locked up and has no trade protection.

I agree it’s an overpay, I just think getting a superstar centre is more important than keeping an extra asset or two. You can replace assets.

They haven’t had a #1C since Nieuwendyk.

And look, if organizationally they look at Eichel and determine he’s not that guy, fair enough. But the Priority has to be finding that player. Whoever he is.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Reinhart has also played well as a center while Eichel’s been out. Like the #2 overall he was drafted in.

If we get beat from an Eichel offer, I would make sure that we go for Reinhart as a back-up plan.

Assuming the Sabres trade Eichel, Reinhart likely becomes the last guy they trade.

Because he has, you know, played well as a centre while Eichel has been out. Like the #2 overall he was drafted in. Or at least that's what I have read recently LOL.

[Savvy27]

This is very interesting. Kind of a mixed bag of news, knowing that he is more likely to be traded since it seems like the relationship has soured but also learning that he has a pretty serious injury.

It's going to take a really good offer to get him, but if you look at what it took to get guys like O'Reilly, Seguin, and Thornton, teams just aren't able to extract a huge number of important pieces in these trades. Given how much Sutter talks about the dearth of elite talent on the Flames, you'd expect that he is pushing for Eichel. It would also be interesting to hear how Sutter compares Eichel to a guy like Kopitar.