04-28-2021, 10:40 AM
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#1401
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
Ha Ha stupid Florida.
Bennett is an RFA with arbitration rights. He will throw out their salary structure as right now they are paying 5.9 for Barkov and Huberdeau.
AND they will have to protect Bennett in the expansion draft
Could very well cost them Accari or Duclair or Vatrano
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"stupid"?
I've seen a lot of hot takes in this thread, but this one is special.
Well done ricardo...you've one-upped yourself again.
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04-28-2021, 10:56 AM
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#1403
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Franchise Player
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Cali, what happens when Verhaeghe gets back in the lineup? Where's he going to shake out?
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04-28-2021, 10:59 AM
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#1404
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206
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Originally Posted by New Era
Cali, what happens when Verhaeghe gets back in the lineup? Where's he going to shake out?
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Bennett will stay with Huberdeau.
Verhaeghe will stay with Barkov.
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04-28-2021, 11:01 AM
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#1405
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by New Era
Cali, what happens when Verhaeghe gets back in the lineup? Where's he going to shake out?
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Straight back to Barkov's line because they have chemistry, and Gusev probably slides down to line 3 with Vatrano and Wennberg, or even the 4th line depending on how good Tippett is doing. My money is on Tippett keeping his spot on the 3rd line.
Lineup is ideally this:
Verhaeghe-Barkov-Hornqvist
Huberdeau-Bennett-Duclair
Vatrano-Wennberg-Tippett
Lammikko-Acciari-Gusev
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04-28-2021, 11:03 AM
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#1406
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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^ now that’s a stacked lineup.
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04-28-2021, 11:09 AM
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#1407
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
^ now that’s a stacked lineup.
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If Ekblad were healthy, the lineup would look even more impressive.
Weegar-Montour
Yandle-Stralman
Forsling-Gudas
Nutivaara
becomes...
Weegar-Ekblad
Yandle-Stralman
Montour-Gudas
Forsling
Plus, we added Spencer Knight this year so...
Bobrovsky/Driedger
becomes...
Bobrovsky/Knight/Driedger
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04-28-2021, 11:12 AM
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#1408
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
^ now that’s a stacked lineup.
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Now if only the Flames could have done that... 
Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Bennett-Mangipane
Lucic-Backlund-Dube
Nordstrom-Ryan-Leivo
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04-28-2021, 11:14 AM
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#1409
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
If Ekblad were healthy, the lineup would look even more impressive.
Weegar-Montour
Yandle-Stralman
Forsling-Gudas
Nutivaara
becomes...
Weegar-Ekblad
Yandle-Stralman
Montour-Gudas
Forsling
Plus, we added Spencer Knight this year so...
Bobrovsky/Driedger
becomes...
Bobrovsky/Knight/Driedger
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why would Forsling get bumped off for Montour? He has been playing lights out from all reports.
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04-28-2021, 11:15 AM
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#1410
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon
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No idea who this guy is but Bennett is very much not the third wheel on that line
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04-28-2021, 11:21 AM
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#1411
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder
No idea who this guy is but Bennett is very much not the third wheel on that line
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That line wasn't even together last game. Owen Tippett was on RW all game while Duclair played with Barkov.
If I'm guessing right, that was the first time Bennett's ever played with two other top ten draft picks on his line - and he was centering it.
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04-28-2021, 11:21 AM
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#1412
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder
No idea who this guy is but Bennett is very much not the third wheel on that line
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He kind of is... Huberdeau and Duclair have been driving play at an elite level all season long. It'll take more than a hyper-productive seven games (with a lot of sky-high percentages) to establish Bennett as a bona fide play-driver when he's playing with two terrific playmakers.
Bennett is having a ton of amazing success so far, but slow your roll if you think the Flames just gave up a 60 or 70-point guy (or even a 40 to 50-point guy). He has a long way to go and he's shown himself before to be a very inconsistent player, even when playing with good linemates.
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04-28-2021, 11:24 AM
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#1413
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Scoring Winger
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Bennett's value has been obvious. With Anaheim always wanting Bennett, they saw his potential and need in the western conference of big bodied centers. Anaheim has a good read on these types and Calgary should pick up on that. Florida is benefiting from another Flames mistake. The player we want/need, was in our possession. If that wasn't happening in Calgary, that's not on Bennett, that's on the management/coaches for ruining him in Calgary.
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04-28-2021, 11:30 AM
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#1414
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by Poster
why would Forsling get bumped off for Montour? He has been playing lights out from all reports.
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I dunno, maybe he doesn't. I would assume age and experience get preference with Q.
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04-28-2021, 11:30 AM
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#1415
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
He kind of is... Huberdeau and Duclair have been driving play at an elite level all season long. It'll take more than a hyper-productive seven games (with a lot of sky-high percentages) to establish Bennett as a bona fide play-driver when he's playing with two terrific playmakers.
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Elite level?
Anthony Duclair had 18 points in 31 games playing predominantly with Verhaege and Barkov before Bennett arrived. A 48 point pace.
A bit of an overstatement there, and I'm not trying to take away from Duclair, I think he's made some gorgeous plays on that line.
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Bennett is having a ton of amazing success so far, but slow your roll if you think the Flames just gave up a 60 or 70-point guy (or even a 40 to 50-point guy).
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I mean, I pretty much thought that before the trade.
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04-28-2021, 11:33 AM
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#1416
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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I guess we can look at a few ways and none shine positively on Calgary.
Bennett needed good line mates to play with to bring out his potential. Even if its an unsustainable pace, its still happening. He never got a long look with that talent here or the talent here he did get a look with isn't of the same quality as Florida.
So the talent here isn't up to par, the coaching has been awful or both.
Its not a great look no matter how you slice that. Even if its not a huge sample size.
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04-28-2021, 11:35 AM
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#1417
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Elite level?
Anthony Duclair had 18 points in 31 games playing predominantly with Verhaege and Barkov before Bennett arrived. A 48 point pace.
A bit of an overstatement there, and I'm not trying to take away from Duclair, I think he's made some gorgeous plays on that line.
I mean, I pretty much thought that before the trade.
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I know you did. I am far more skeptical.
Duclair has provided the Panthers with 8.6 goals above replacement this season (according to Evolving-Hockey). Huberdeau, 9.1.
Bennett came into Florida having provided Calgary with zero goals above replacement this year. -4.2 last year. 3 in 2018-19. -9.3 in 2017-18.
He's in the midst of a ridiculously good stretch in Florida but he's been a poor play-driver for most of his career. I think it's awfully presumptuous to cast him as a Marc Savard-type. I think Dylan Strome is a far better comparison.
Calgary may have developed him poorly but I just don't think a consistent top-six forward is there. I see a great third-line 30 to 35-point guy going forward for Florida.
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04-28-2021, 11:36 AM
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#1418
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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Has anyone heard anything from Emil Heineman regarding being traded to the Flames?
I’m excited to see how he progresses as well and it’d be nice to hear from him.
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04-28-2021, 11:36 AM
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#1419
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Toonage
I guess we can look at a few ways and none shine positively on Calgary.
Bennett needed good line mates to play with to bring out his potential. Even if its an unsustainable pace, its still happening. He never got a long look with that talent here or the talent here he did get a look with isn't of the same quality as Florida.
So the talent here isn't up to par, the coaching has been awful or both.
Its not a great look no matter how you slice that. Even if its not a huge sample size.
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I really doubt it's the coaching. Flames are really doing spectacular with Sutter as we speak. The team is still mediocre at best.
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04-28-2021, 11:39 AM
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#1420
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
Ha Ha stupid Florida.
Bennett is an RFA with arbitration rights. He will throw out their salary structure as right now they are paying 5.9 for Barkov and Huberdeau.
AND they will have to protect Bennett in the expansion draft
Could very well cost them Accari or Duclair or Vatrano
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Yeah, it's really stupid to collect so many valuable assets that you lose one to expansion.
You know who will lose assets? The top teams. Last time the Flames lost a UFA because they had no one worth taking.
Congrats to the Flames. How did the future look after that?
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