[GT] Flames vs Jets

[DB93]

I don’t get the Gio blame on the second goal. Darryl’s system involves the dman being active and holding the puck in the offensive zone. Forwards have to be responsible and back the d up. I watched the reply - Tkachuk had a full stick length lead on Schiefle at their blue line and just got out worked. That’s all on him not Gio

[dammage79]

I was having fun watching the game until those two minutes. What a way to absolutely flatten momentum. I never winge about refs but WTF. Kicking/intentional deflection like that is all the same to me. Now if there's a net front presence and the skate is angled properly before the shot, I think that's where the rule applies. IMO the Thompson goal is a no goal because it's a distinct extension of the body in an un natural position. And the shot was already taken.

[bubbsy]

If Thompson scored that if the puck was at a standstill it would have been a no goal, he swings his leg.

However, because he did that to a puck in motion it's a good goal.

I don't get it, at all.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by dino7c

He just happened to be swinging his skate 3 inches off the ice when it propelled the puck into the net...no ####ing way is that a goal

That is just how he skates by the front of the net all the time.

[FanIn80]

I mean would it even hurt the team to bench Tkachuk for the rest of the game?

[Manhattanboy]

Missed part of the first. Did SN even discuss the kicking play during the intermission or just show Oilers highlights?

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by browna

Turning his ankle is different than a kicking motion.

His skate was already moving forward because he was skating forward and had inside position on Rasmus.

Honest question...when you're skating in a game, does the boot normally come 3-4 inches off the ice in a normal stride? No? Then stop this crap. It's stupid.

[GioforPM]

Any movement of the foot that propels the puck other than a straight immobile deflection is supposed to be “kicking”.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Flame On

Why do I hear about Buffalo so much! **** Buffalo.

Historic levels of crappiness? 18 losses in a row is big news as they are literally a game away from setting the record.


The ultimate combo of suckage has occurred when Taylor Hall took his talents to the only franchise that has rivaled the Oilers tire fire for the last 15 years

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Missed part of the first. Did SN even discuss the kicking play during the intermission of just show Oilers highlights?

What do you think?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Jesus guys, stop justifying a bad call by pretending it wasn't a kicking motion and some sort of "accidental" play.

I swear, sometimes you can't see things for what they are. That's the wrong call, full stop. There's nothing else to debate. He directed it towards the net intentionally with his skate and the skate swung forward in a kicking motion. Any other justification is just trying to play devil's advocate.

I am amazed at how many people are trying to justify the call. That was one of the most blatant kicks I have seen in my many decades of being continually frustrated by this game and its refs.

[AC]

I think the criteria is whether the forward motion is used to propel the puck towards the goal, or if the skate's forward motion is to put the boot into place to redirect it.

Here was Gaudreau's no-goal against Montreal a couple weeks ago:
https://streamable.com/kibf1k

If tonight's goal counts, this one should too... and vice versa.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Missed part of the first. Did SN even discuss the kicking play during the intermission or just show Oilers highlights?

I think you know the answer

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Honest question, is that what the rule book says?

78.5 Disallowed Goals – Apparent goals shall be disallowed by the Referee and the appropriate announcement made by the Public Address Announcer for the following reasons:

(i) When the puck has been directed, batted or thrown into the net by an attacking player other than with a stick. When this occurs, if it is deemed to be done deliberately, then the decision shall be NO GOAL. A goal cannot be scored when the puck has been deliberately batted with any part of the attacking player’s body into the net.

(ii) When the puck has been kicked using a distinct kicking motion.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by DB93

I don’t get the Gio blame on the second goal. Darryl’s system involves the dman being active and holding the puck in the offensive zone. Forwards have to be responsible and back the d up. I watched the reply - Tkachuk had a full stick length lead on Schiefle at their blue line and just got out worked. That’s all on him not Gio

Agreed.

Pretty standard stuff.

Matt got outworked!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by DB93

I don’t get the Gio blame on the second goal. Darryl’s system involves the dman being active and holding the puck in the offensive zone. Forwards have to be responsible and back the d up. I watched the reply - Tkachuk had a full stick length lead on Schiefle at their blue line and just got out worked. That’s all on him not Gio

There’s a couple posters who hover the keyboard in the hopes Gio makes a mistake. Just like a couple other players.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Historic levels of crappiness? 18 losses in a row is big news as they are literally a game away from setting the record.


The ultimate combo of sucks he has occurred when Taylor Hall took his talents to the only franchise that has rivaled the Oilers tire fire for the last 15 years

Guys on 960 last week were saying Buffalo hasn’t won in the month of March since 2018.

Wild. LOL

Edit: just checked. They were wrong. They have 3 wins in the month of March since 2019. Still incredibly pathetic.

[flamingred89]

Imagine a league where you can or can’t have the puck go in off a skate? No kicking motion or any of that garbage. It’s a can or a can’t. That goal to me was a kicking motion which should’ve been disallowed. But here we sit with grey area and a debate. If the NHL wants that to be a goal then get rid of the kicking motion rule and this grey area. It’s like soccer and the handball. If it hits your hand it’s done. No reason for debate.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by cali panthers fan

jesus guys, stop justifying a bad call by pretending it wasn't a kicking motion and some sort of "accidental" play.

I swear, sometimes you can't see things for what they are. That's the wrong call, full stop. There's nothing else to debate. He directed it towards the net intentionally with his skate and the skate swung forward in a kicking motion. Any other justification is just trying to play devil's advocate.

lol.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by browna

Turning his ankle is different than a kicking motion.

His skate was already moving forward because he was skating forward and was fighting for, and had inside position on Rasmus.

Everyone skates forward by driving their foot in front of their body, that is just how NHL players skate.