03-29-2021, 08:48 PM
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#221
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First Line Centre
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The last thing one should do on a backcheck is to look for a call. Just skate as hard as you can. Even if Scheifle did outrace him, there is no chance he gets the time to wind up for a one timer if chucky at least tries to stay with him.
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03-29-2021, 08:48 PM
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#222
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Tkachuk would have been right at home on the 2006 era Canucks with that dive. Lucky he didn’t get called for embellishment.
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03-29-2021, 08:48 PM
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#223
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by browna
You are allowed to direct in with your skate, just can't kick at it, which he really didn't.
He just turned his boot open, which is a subtle difference.
As mentioned, this is not applied the same. Gaudreau did the exact same year or two ago and called back. Have to find it.
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Probably right. It just looked like he purposely directed it in.
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03-29-2021, 08:48 PM
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#224
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Bush league tonight from the officiating.
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03-29-2021, 08:48 PM
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#225
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Franchise Player
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A kicked in goal and a clear missed boarding call is all you need to know about this game.
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03-29-2021, 08:48 PM
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#226
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Location: Vancouver
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That Tkachuck play is embarrassing. Terrible. Sutter needs to solve antics like that.
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03-29-2021, 08:48 PM
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#227
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Location: Calgary, Alberta
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I thought the rule is that it can't be a goal if the puck is INTENTIONALLY kicked in the direction of the net? Not if the puck is kicked in general, and deflected into the net.
The latter is okay. If you don't allow that, then you can't do kick passes or anything else of the manner also then. The video couldn't prove it was a deliberate deflection to the net, so it being a good goal is the right call.
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03-29-2021, 08:48 PM
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#228
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Calgary
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Dynamic duo of 4 and 19 connecting to undo a decent period.
Ship them both out.
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03-29-2021, 08:48 PM
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#229
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drewtastic
Bad pinch by Gio too.
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Why?Matt is back...it’s 2v 2.
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03-29-2021, 08:49 PM
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#230
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browna
You are allowed to direct in with your skate, just can't kick at it, which he really didn't.
He just turned his boot open, which is a subtle difference.
As mentioned, this is not applied the same. Gaudreau did the exact same year or two ago and called back. Have to find it.
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That is how I see it as well. Could have went either way, but I saw it as a redirect.
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03-29-2021, 08:49 PM
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#231
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Refs never miss a puck batted down with a high stick, but they sure miss a lot of obvious penalties and goals/no goals.
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03-29-2021, 08:49 PM
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#232
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Truculent!
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That kick goal was absolute trash. Embarrassing to watch the refs #### that up so badly. Jesus.
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03-29-2021, 08:49 PM
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#233
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browna
You are allowed to direct in with your skate, just can't kick at it, which he really didn't.
He just turned his boot open, which is a subtle difference.
As mentioned, this is not applied the same. Gaudreau did the exact same year or two ago and called back. Have to find it.
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Yeah, at what point does it become a kick? I thought it looked blatant until the slowmo angle, where it looked like he stuck his skate out to redirect it.
But then his skate follows through into the air somewhat. Hard to call, but I didn't disagree with the call.
As you said though, that exact goal would be reversed by different refs or with different teams involved, for sure.
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03-29-2021, 08:49 PM
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#234
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnhitbox
Probably right. It just looked like he purposely directed it in.
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He swung his leg forward. At the time of contact it was well ahead of his body. That's not directing, that is a kicking motion. Redirecting means you are turning your foot, not moving it forward. The latter is by definition a kick.
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03-29-2021, 08:49 PM
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#235
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Franchise Player
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Helluva basketball game on right now.
I’m still fuming about Tkachuk trying to sell a phantom penalty instead of hustling back on a 2 on 1.
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03-29-2021, 08:49 PM
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#236
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joborule
I thought the rule is that it can't be a goal if the puck is INTENTIONALLY kicked in the direction of the net? Not if the puck is kicked in general, and deflected into the net.
The latter is okay. If you don't allow that, then you can't do kick passes or anything else of the manner also then. The video couldn't prove it was a deliberate deflection to the net, so it being a good goal is the right call.
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Why is he sticking his leg out like that if not to deflect the puck? It's deliberate imo.
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03-29-2021, 08:49 PM
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#237
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
Why?Matt is back...it’s 2v 2.
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Right. The D are OK to pinch if they have coverage, which he should have had.
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03-29-2021, 08:49 PM
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#238
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Franchise Player
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They need to get rid of the kicked in rule. Such a dumb rule to begin with. Players don't give a #### about player safety anyways, just ask Dubois. So no reason to protect it if you are worried about that aspect.
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03-29-2021, 08:50 PM
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#239
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joborule
I thought the rule is that it can't be a goal if the puck is INTENTIONALLY kicked in the direction of the net? Not if the puck is kicked in general, and deflected into the net.
The latter is okay. If you don't allow that, then you can't do kick passes or anything else of the manner also then. The video couldn't prove it was a deliberate deflection to the net, so it being a good goal is the right call.
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nope. wrong.
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03-29-2021, 08:50 PM
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#240
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Scoring Winger
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Started by Slowass Gio making a bad pinch
Jets broke out
Tkachuk is too slow...dove
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