2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by DiracSpike

lol you know you’re really reaching when you’re tossing in subjective standards like “quality of life” and “access to services” to try and somehow argue that there isn’t a massive tax difference between different jurisdictions. The fact is you keep a lot more of your money in Arizona over Toronto. The fact is you’re paying 53% of your income to taxes in Toronto, and 41% in Arizona. If you’re Matthews making 10 mil a year that’s a difference of 1.2 million per year in taxes. So no, you’re wrong, it’s millions of dollars over a contract term difference. But I’m sure people are desperate to pay more to live in buffalo or Chicago because of infrastructure differences...

Except it isn't a single back of napkin calculation like that.

For one thing AFAIK players have to file in [nearly?] every jurisdicition they play (which is likely advantageous in the sense that they are spreading income ~20 different places at the lowest brackets). So in TOR or OTT, you're probably filing ~44/82 of your income in ON.

Conversely, a NAS player may only be able to file ~41/82 of their income there...so whatever silly/cursory calculation of the delta between jurisdictions needs to be cut in half.

Of course, this is all before getting into the wide array of simple & creative methods to reduce tax burdens. So the final difference gets close to negligible, depending on individual priorities/preferences.


A huge benefit to playing in a hockey crazed market is endorsement (and other business) opportunities. While not that lucrative for most players, that income can be sheltered/invested in a professional corporation and not drawn as personal income until a player retires

In the long run it can all come pretty close to a wash, or there can be a substantial (but not earth-shattering) difference depending on individual circumstances.

[sureLoss]

From Friedman's 31 thoughts:

6. In Calgary’s search for right-handed shooters, there were conversations with Nashville, but, obviously, nothing happened.

[JurassicTunga12]

Thinking it was for Viktor Arvidsson. He would be nice add.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

Thinking it was for Viktor Arvidsson. He would be nice add.

To me, it would have been about Forsberg and if anything can be done there.

If Treliving is out there targeting more mushy middle-6 wingers, I can't say I really agree. The problem with this roster lays at the top of the roster, not in the middle of the roster in my eyes.

[dammage79]

Tolvanen would be a decent risk/reward trade.

[Enoch Root]

I would do Tkachuk for Forsberg.

[1qqaaz]

Arvidsson still has 3 years left at 4.250 mill.
Forsberg has one year at 6 mill.

Arvidsson is a year older, despite being drafted 2 years later.

I think Nashville would rather keep Arvidsson because of his contract. But he's also having a down year, and apparently they're listening on offers for almost everyone.

I would be happy with either of them and I like Swedes.

[JurassicTunga12]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

To me, it would have been about Forsberg and if anything can be done there.

If Treliving is out there targeting more mushy middle-6 wingers, I can't say I really agree. The problem with this roster lays at the top of the roster, not in the middle of the roster in my eyes.

I don't disagree. Forsberg is one of my biggest wishes for this team. I just don't really see Forsberg actually getting traded even though NSH didn't include him in their 'untouchables', unless of course you give up something that hurts.
edit: didn't realize he had 1yr left

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I would do Tkachuk for Forsberg.

That's bonkers. Forsberg is a year away from UFA.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

That's bonkers. Forsberg is a year away from UFA.

and Tkachuk is 2, with a $9M pricetag looming on the one before it

in that regard they are pretty even - he difference is in their age, where Tkachuk is 3 years younger

[AC]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

That's bonkers. Forsberg is a year away from UFA.

Technically if Tkachuk wants he'll be a UFA in 2 years if he just accepts the 1 year qualifying offer, no?

[wired]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

That's bonkers. Forsberg is a year away from UFA.

But he is WAY better than Tkachuk.
He is not worth his current contract at the moment (IMO), much less $9 mil.

[Manhattanboy]

There's always discussions that never lead anywhere.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by wired

But he is WAY better than Tkachuk.
He is not worth his current contract at the moment (IMO), much less $9 mil.

based on what exactly? He has a couple more points this season but less in the last two. Tkachuk is younger and has a higher PPG in his career.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by wired

But he is WAY better than Tkachuk.
He is not worth his current contract at the moment (IMO), much less $9 mil.

He's having an off year (on an off team) and still has 21P in 26gp.

I'm fine with trading him for someone young and cost controlled, but I'd much sooner move Johnny and turn the page on this roster.

[djsFlames]

Huge fan of both arvidsson and forsberg.

[Enoch Root]

the simple fact of the matter is the Flames need a RW

[Royle9]

Forsberg or Mantha would be a pipe dream at this point but would instantly make our top6 better.

Both would come at a significant cost however, and likely take assets we shouldn’t burn on this core any more.

[Bonded]

Forsberg is the most overrated player on this site.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Forsberg is the most overrated player on this site.

Your spelled Bennett wrong.