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Old 03-03-2021, 07:36 PM   #8461
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Sam Bennett was ranked #1 by central scouting and top four by everyone. It was the big 4, 29 teams would have taken Bennett there.

I personally believe the Flames largely ruined him. As you pointed out, he was the consensus guy at that spot, so the skill and potential were there at the time. Someone didn't light a fire under him at the start but he was also buried and not given much of a chance from the start. He didn't deserve much, but for a guy drafted that high there should have been more attention to develop the guy one-on-one. While I won't literally take it to my grave, because I don't care that much, but the saying remains that I truly believe they ruined the guy by not giving him some free rope. He didn't play hard (entitled?) but he was never given a chance early on which a player of that high draft ilk should have been given (sink or swim). Now the not-so-good habits have set in and he is what he is.
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Old 03-03-2021, 07:51 PM   #8462
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Bennett looked like he was on track until Gulutzan became the coach.

18-18-36 in 77 is pretty good for a 19 year old rookie.
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Old 03-03-2021, 07:55 PM   #8463
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A deal around Bennett for Miles Wood would be interesting. Wood holds more value so other pieces would need to be added. Near identical cap hit.

Wood is the type of player I would like to see the Flames add to their bottom 6. Speed, grit, and offensive touch.
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Old 03-03-2021, 07:56 PM   #8464
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Incase there was any doubt...Bennet was going top four no matter who was picking
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:06 PM   #8465
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Bennett looked like he was on track until Gulutzan became the coach.

18-18-36 in 77 is pretty good for a 19 year old rookie.
He actually had 9g 9a in his first 37 games under Gulutzan too.

And then Gulutzan replaced him on PP2 with Frolik and he was never the same player again
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:10 PM   #8466
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Bennett looked like he was on track until Gulutzan became the coach.

18-18-36 in 77 is pretty good for a 19 year old rookie.
Not bad, though:

Laine: 36-28-64 in 73 (18 y)
Tkachuk: 13-35-48 in 76 (18)
Keller: 23-42-65 in 82 (19)

Bennett was expected to be better than pretty good as a #4 pick. Even in his rookie season, he was pretty inconsistent. His 4 goal game where everything he touched, including fumbles, went in helped.
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:11 PM   #8467
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Bennett looked like he was on track until Gulutzan became the coach.

18-18-36 in 77 is pretty good for a 19 year old rookie.
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:15 PM   #8468
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Maybe Sam’s talent centre was in his hair. He got Samsoned by nature.
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:16 PM   #8469
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Sigh. This Sam bennett stuff gives me the sads.

I'm on the side that the Flames ruined him for the most part. But I also think whatever success he was gearing into got sidetracked by the arrival of Tkachuk. Just kind of pushed him off the Backlund/Frolik line and into obscurity.

I do think the style of hockey Tree wanted/wants is hindering a lot of players fromax potential. It's also hindered his coaching hires. He wants a specific kind of game and I dont think this roster of players are built for it.
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:27 PM   #8470
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Man... what happened? Looked like a completely different player. His hands and confidence are just gone now.

Gonna watch some 2014/15 videos. I miss those days. The most fun Flames season to watch since 2004.
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:30 PM   #8471
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Man. The Flames broke Bennett
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Thing is - Ferland had his best year under GG. He just pushed his way into the spot he wanted.
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:40 PM   #8473
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Thing is - Ferland had his best year under GG. He just pushed his way into the spot he wanted.

Yeah, not really.

He was shuffled between bottom 6 and top line and was very hot and cold.

He looked like a star some days and like he should be on the side of a milk carton others
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:42 PM   #8474
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Man... what happened? Looked like a completely different player. His hands and confidence are just gone now.

Gonna watch some 2014/15 videos. I miss those days. The most fun Flames season to watch since 2004.
It'll break your heart to see all the potential this core once showed.

Now we get to watch them do their best Dallas Eakins era Oilers impression.
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I thought we'd have a consistent point per game center. No idea what happened. Don't know if it's on the player, the team, or a combination.

So sad.
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:46 PM   #8476
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Man... what happened? Looked like a completely different player. His hands and confidence are just gone now.

Gonna watch some 2014/15 videos. I miss those days. The most fun Flames season to watch since 2004.
Jeez, no kidding. I haven't watched those highlights in years but his style of play and effectiveness is night and day.

Lots of talk nowadays about how he doesn't use his linemates and the junior hockey moves that don't work in the NHL, but these highlights show when they were both working for him. He was often the driving force on that line with Backs and Frolik, lots of smart passes.
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Jeez, no kidding. I haven't watched those highlights in years but his style of play and effectiveness is night and day.

Lots of talk nowadays about how he doesn't use his linemates and the junior hockey moves that don't work in the NHL, but these highlights show when they were both working for him. He was often the driving force on that line with Backs and Frolik, lots of smart passes.
A couple of those plays to Brodie in that video were the kind of passes that used to make me think Bennett had more upside than Gaudreau.

Then Gulutzan happened
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has any reporter attempt to ask Bennett any questions since the trade request? Or has Sam been ever made available? This is the time we miss people like George Johnson, Wes Gilbertson cos they will hang out in the dressing room and speak to players in depth.
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:58 PM   #8479
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Ugh...I got through half of that and couldn’t watch anymore. What happened? The thing that I call him out on all the time is his lack of awareness, but he had plenty of awareness back then.

I just don’t get why he’s fallen so hard.
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Man, after watching some of those highlights maybe the Flames did ruin him. I forgot how solid he looked.
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