[PGT] Flames Lose to Canucks by a lot of goals

[GG51]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

I suspect Tre is an excellent assistant GM. Good at contract negotiations, cap management, etc.

But as a GM setting the strategy? He's a disaster.

At same time, is Ward an good assistant coach, if not excellent?

[motorcrosser]

Originally Posted by neo45

Over a 1/4 through the season and the coach hasn’t figured out a single line combo

He’s waffling between healthy scratching a guy and trying him on the top line

Very clearly in over his head

These players lack of give a crapness doesn't make it easy I'm sure

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

Counting blocks or not?


Because if not holy Moses that’s bad

70 shot attempts

36 hit the net

13 blocked

21 missed entirely

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by NewFan

So we need someone who can combine them and get good result as a whole team.

We need the designer of Voltron. Only he can save us now.

[AC]

Originally Posted by neo45

Over a 1/4 through the season and the coach hasn’t figured out a single line combo

He’s waffling between healthy scratching a guy and trying him on the top line

Very clearly in over his head

Again, I'm generally ok with Ward (though would have been excited for Gallant or Boudreau this last off-season)...

But yeah, Simon going from a healthy scratch to the top offensive line? That's a bad look. Simon almost immediately turns it over for an odd man rush goal against and gets benched too...

Meanwhile, Brett Ritchie goes from a PTO 14/15 F signing to playing on that top offensive line midgame? WOOF.

It's a really bad look for both Ward and Treliving.

[Manhattanboy]

How safe would bets be against the Flames this weekend? Anyone know a good bookie?

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

If I was Ward

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Mangiapane
Lucic-Bennett-Dube
And whatever else

Hanifin-Tanev
Gio-Rasmus
Valimaki-Nesterov/Mackey

I'm kinda done with rotating 4th liners throughout the lines every game. Time to play your top 9 players on your top 3 games.

Would help if Chucky found his game again. And if they could start the game on time, which has been a problem for years, for whatever reason.

There's lots of time left, but there's no guarantee this is a playoff team.

This is the problem, Ward is looking more and more like Gulutzan, insisting on rolling 4 lines ALL game long. Those forward lines were working well last season, why in the world he changed them? And then, in the middle of the game, just throw them into the blender?

[flylock shox]

Maybe Terry is getting tired of doing colour on the Nashville broadcast...

[CGY12]

Coaching is a problem but it is far from the only problem. The forward group has some major major structural and talent issues.

[Anti-Hero]

This team needs a change. I'm a big supporter of Treliving, but at some point he needs to address the issues with this team, if he's unable to do so then ownership needs to find someone who will. In the offseason I though adding Markstrom would elevate this team, but while consistent goaltending was definitely an issue, it's becoming clear that the issue with this team is more a combination of preparedness, execution, and emotional investment. I won't say this team doesn't care, or is fine with losing, but they don't seem willing to do the little things consistently, they don't seem to hate to lose and that's a big issue for me as a fan.

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by btimbit

70 shot attempts

36 hit the net

13 blocked

21 missed entirely

Ooof

[TheSquatch]

Now help me here: is THIS the game where they have another closed door meeting, like every year when they've played off/on and then got beat horribly by about 1/4 way into the season? Or is it next game? Cuz it's gotta be soon here.

Then they win 9 in a row, then after that they play .51 and just barely make the playoffs, yeah?

That's the formula as I see it.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by AC

Again, I'm generally ok with Ward (though would have been excited for Gallant or Boudreau this last off-season)...

But yeah, Simon going from a healthy scratch to the top offensive line? That's a bad look. Simon almost immediately turns it over for an odd man rush goal against and gets benched too...

Meanwhile, Brett Ritchie goes from a PTO 14/15 F signing to playing on that top offensive line midgame? WOOF.

It's a really bad look for both Ward and Treliving.

That was the first decision I found just not arguable. Minds you, the Ritchie thing sort of worked, except Johnny and Monahan couldn’t score tonight.

I’m all for a coaching change but I don’t think it solves much. The team is just not there.

[Voodooman]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

If I was Ward

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Mangiapane
Lucic-Bennett-Dube
And whatever else

Hanifin-Tanev
Gio-Rasmus
Valimaki-Nesterov/Mackey

I'm kinda done with rotating 4th liners throughout the lines every game. Time to play your top 9 players on your top 3 games.

Would help if Chucky found his game again. And if they could start the game on time, which has been a problem for years, for whatever reason.

There's lots of time left, but there's no guarantee this is a playoff team.

So much this....these 3 lines have all been solid over time. Put them together, and f’ing leave it alone for 10 games.

You wanted Lindholm to be a C. It’s not working for the team. I don’t care if Tre, Ward, Lindholm himself or the spirit of Ken King is saying to leave him at C, you have to do something to motivate this roster.

[malcolmk14]

At least one of two things is true here. Either the coach is the problem or this core doesn’t have what it takes. Sadly I fear it might be both.

[Manhattanboy]

Two days until we play EDM twice.

Please Flames make a trade, fire someone, change something, do something, anything...

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

this lineup is such a no brainer - and I bet we don't see t all year

Not sure if it's Ward or Treliving or Lindholm or a combination of all 3, but it seems like the team is insistent on leaving Lindy at center. So now the Flames have to figure out what centers are going to play the wing, what the line combos are, what 4th liner will play on the top line, etc.........Lindy is so good everywhere he plays, putting him back at RW on that top line solves a lot of problems at once. I sure wish they'd give it a shot.

[GG51]

the same story happened last season? 28 at center, 11 on the wing, Buddy on first line? I remember the lines were changed back after a player only meeting, just call another again

Originally Posted by AC

Rittich with the shutout!

But seriously, the fact that Brett Ritchie was the RW on the Gaudreau and Monahan line for most of the game after Simon was promoted (following his healthy scratches) and then benched for his awful turnover...

I'm generally a Ward and Treliving supporter but this game was a cry for help.

Mantha out of DET, or a handful of Nashville players would all be huge upgrades for this team. Doing nothing but expecting this lineup formation with Simon/Leivo/Ritchie/whoever to help that line is ridiculous. It's clearly not happening.

At the very least with how useless Tkachuk has been lately, why not go back to a top 9 of:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Mangiapane
Dube - Bennett - Lucic

[NewFan]

If they can't hire another coach, I would like to see, GM fires the coach and take coaching for himself and let the players play own. Just want to see if coaching is really important.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

Maybe Terry is getting tired of doing colour on the Nashville broadcast...

Hahahaha. This crew would #### and slide in it if Crispy comes calling.