Pretty sure Hanifin has overtaken Gio on the depth chart this year and is definitely not someone we should be looking at trading considering his current age, cap hit, experience and on and on. He’s literally becoming one of the most valuable pieces we have and if he was going to the Preds in any trade I’d want Forsberg coming back at minimum.
Two recent UFA signings who are weathered and a 30 year old D with 1 1/2 years left isn’t enough for a player of Hanifin’s caliber at the cap hit and contract he’s currently on. To throw Bennett and Kylington in there too without any true committed assets past 21/22 coming back would be painful.
Anthony Mantha would be a good target for right wing too I think. Sometimes seems like Detroit has a love/hate relationship with him at times. Not good defensively at all but is big, has a great shot, and can dominate in the offensive zone. He’s 26 years old and is signed till 2024 at $5.7 million which is a decent term since it ends when he’s 30 - the perfect timing for a contract on a big forward to end as that’s usually when their production takes a nosedive.
Obviously I would rather get someone like Forsburg from the Predators but the price might be lower to get Mantha. Though it would still likely not be cheap to acquire him since Detroit would have offers from other teams and would likely not be in any rush to move him.
Has anyone said anything about Getzlaf? Is he going to re-sign with the Ducks? I think he’s a UFA at the end of the year. He has an $8.25 million cap hit. He shoots right and has a history playing in Calgary (a long time ago, I know).
The acquisition cost could be high but if it’s a possibility for the flames it could be an interesting option. He could easily either center the second/third line or play right wing for Gaudreau and monahan.
Would need to send multiple players back to make the cap hit work (Bennett + Ryan + picks).
Not sure if it’s even a possibility though.
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Doubt he'd move until the TDL if at all, but it could make a lot of sense for him, even if he wants to re-sign with ANA (they probably aren't that far from being competitive again if they can add some young assets).
I could see a match with VGK (especially for Getz to approve), though I'm not sure what contract they could send back.
Anthony Mantha would be a good target for right wing too I think. Sometimes seems like Detroit has a love/hate relationship with him at times. Not good defensively at all but is big, has a great shot, and can dominate in the offensive zone. He’s 26 years old and is signed till 2024 at $5.7 million which is a decent term since it ends when he’s 30 - the perfect timing for a contract on a big forward to end as that’s usually when their production takes a nosedive.
Obviously I would rather get someone like Forsburg from the Predators but the price might be lower to get Mantha. Though it would still likely not be cheap to acquire him since Detroit would have offers from other teams and would likely not be in any rush to move him.
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Mantha could make a lot of sense. He's off to a bad start with Detroit, and surely they would entertain a shakeup. He's a lethal sniper and a big body, similar to Ferland, just not very physical. He attacks with speed and uses his size offensively.
It's only getting more and more painfully obvious that we need a 1RW. Mantha is a left shot but plays the RW.
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Mantha could make a lot of sense. He's off to a bad start with Detroit, and surely they would entertain a shakeup. He's a lethal sniper and a big body, similar to Ferland, just not very physical. He attacks with speed and uses his size offensively.
It's only getting more and more painfully obvious that we need a 1RW. Mantha is a left shot but plays the RW.
I’d trade a good deal for him. And they’d ask it, given his age, contract etc.
Mantha could make a lot of sense. He's off to a bad start with Detroit, and surely they would entertain a shakeup. He's a lethal sniper and a big body, similar to Ferland, just not very physical. He attacks with speed and uses his size offensively.
It's only getting more and more painfully obvious that we need a 1RW. Mantha is a left shot but plays the RW.
Would Bennett + 1st + 2nd + Ryan (cap dump) be enough for someone like Mantha?
I think Mantha would be cheaper to acquire than you'd think. Trade rumors have surrounded him almost since he was drafted, and despite his huge junior stats, he fell in the draft for a reason.
Not cheap at all, but not a crazy cost either.
I think he's one of those guys that would excel if he were simply a complementary player rather than someone the team completely leans on.
He could be that on Calgary - he'd bring a huge boost to the PP.
Would Johnny and Monny, to Buffalo and Gio (with salary retained) traded to a contender with the return going to Buffalo be enough to acquire Eichel?
It’s time for an on the fly retool. This team is going nowhere as constructed. Especially with Ward steering the ship into every iceberg he sees!
Why does Buffalo do this? If they are getting rid of Eichel it’s a complete rebuild and they will want picks or top prospects, not guys who are older than Eichel.
I don;t think they are trading him under any circumstances anyway. I know he only has one year until his NMC, but I suspect they think that he will will waive it if and when necessary. It’s not like people are smitten with living in Buffalo.
We could just as easily trade Johnny and Monny to contenders for picks and prospects to satisfy Buffalo. Long story short, it’s time to switch things up. Johnny, Monny, and Gio need to go by the trade deadline. Otherwise we’ll get Iggied/Kippered again and will be left with nothing to show for them.
We could just as easily trade Johnny and Monny to contenders for picks and prospects to satisfy Buffalo. Long story short, it’s time to switch things up. Johnny, Monny, and Gio need to go by the trade deadline. Otherwise we’ll get Iggied/Kippered again and will be left with nothing to show for them.
No one is trading for Gio unless there’s a huge retention. Not unless he has a resurgence.
Why is Ryan being traded? He's a UFA at the end of the season and he's not bringing back anything that would makeup for him unless Chiarelli finds a GM job before the TD.
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Why is Ryan being traded? He's a UFA at the end of the season and he's not bringing back anything that would makeup for him unless Chiarelli finds a GM job before the TD.
He is generally being thrown into deals to make the cap work.
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Unless for very cheap, I think this team should stay away from Mantha. He's one of Detroit's most dangerous players and they still made him a healthy scratch because of his give-a-####-level. A skilled but lazy player who disappears when the going gets tough is nearing the antithesis of what the Flames need right now.
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It’s sure hindsight but the D would have looked better if they traded Gio to the Leafs in the offseason and re-signed Brodie. And it may well would have been doable. Gio is a Toronto boy and on paper he was more of what the Leafs needed than Brodie at the time.
The Flames would be running Hanifin-Tanev, Brodie-Ras, Val-Nesterov/Mackey
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The Flames are not looking like a team that should be adding players this season. They can't afford to be losing picks and prospects. They need those players to replace guys on there way out. Imo Gio and Backlund should be trade deadline moves. I'd only keep Backlund if Bennett moves instead
Right now the Flames are probably losing Tanev in expansion draft. He is our best defenseman. Gio at this point shouldn't be protected. If that the case they might as well move him
Backlund too. I think he could get us a quality return. Bennett can move to center and we need to look at 2021 draft and positioning for expansion draft. This team is very young still minus Gio and Backlund they are one of youngest in league.
Next summer Johnny can be extended. If he doesn't then he might have to go too but no backs and gio makes resigning players a ton easier and selling might get us a top prospect this draft
