2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Poe969

I wonder if a trade with jersey could happen now that Crawford retired. I wonder what they would give up for a Rittich/Gaudreau combo right now? The Flames don't have to make a trade so the return would have to be a huge overpayment but it would give NJ a 1b goalie and an elite winger since they don't seem to have much depth on the wings.

So, Markstrom is going to play every game?

[DazzlinDino]

From what I saw of Ward's interviews it sounds like the Flames have been following a plan. I doubt they will deviate from this current group and make "strong" changes. I would love Tre to prove me wrong, I doubt he will make a trade for the sake of making a trade. He seems to be pretty loyal. If this season goes sideways I can see Flames gunning for potentially Dubois and Hall.

If Tre was not willing to add Hall this season I doubt he will add Dubois, unless it includes some other pieces. Can't see him trading Rittich at this point after all the work he put in to create a strong tandem.

[ricardodw]

What is Dubois's problem in Columbus? Would it be fixed by a move to Calgary?

If Columbus gives Torterella his walking papers and brings in a new coach does Dubois change his trade demands for Columbus?

Any idea if Dubois has a specific list of teams that would make him happy? Would Calgary be on that list?

[BigErnSalute_16]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

What is Dubois's problem in Columbus? Would it be fixed by a move to Calgary?

If Columbus gives Torterella his walking papers and brings in a new coach does Dubois change his trade demands for Columbus?

Any idea if Dubois has a specific list of teams that would make him happy? Would Calgary be on that list?

It literally doesn't matter at all if Calgary is on his list of preferred places to go because he doesn't have that luxury to choose. What are you even going on about? Is there any rumours at all that Dubois and Torts don't get along? or are you just projecting your flawed perception of Torts onto him?

[TOfan]

I don’t see any significant trades being made for Canadian teams this season. Maybe between American teams, but the reality of it is that the Senators very well could end up being the only seller North of the broader.

The topic of discussion shouldn’t be PLD, it should be what’s it going to cost the Flames to add Alex Galchenyuk.

Personally, I don’t see the Flames making a single trade this season.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I don’t see any significant trades being made for Canadian teams this season. Maybe between American teams, but the reality of it is that the Senators are could end up being the only seller North of the broader.

The topic of discussion shouldn’t be PLD, it should be what’s it going to cost the Flames to add Alex Galchenyuk.

Personally, I don’t see the Flames making a single trade this season.

Why would the Flames want to add Galchenyuk?

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

From what I saw of Ward's interviews it sounds like the Flames have been following a plan. I doubt they will deviate from this current group and make "strong" changes. I would love Tre to prove me wrong, I doubt he will make a trade for the sake of making a trade. He seems to be pretty loyal. If this season goes sideways I can see Flames gunning for potentially Dubois and Hall.

If Tre was not willing to add Hall this season I doubt he will add Dubois, unless it includes some other pieces. Can't see him trading Rittich at this point after all the work he put in to create a strong tandem.

I agree at this stage of game I doubt any changes are happening. I have no doubt in my mind that in the past off season Tre probably explored trading a mony or Johnny but nothing came of it. Not sure what not signing Hall has to do with PLD? Flames #1 priority was to get a #1 goalie. My guess would be that acquiring a top line center would have been more of a priority than adding another LW.

IMO Columbus best hope is to play out the year with PLD and hope he changes his mind. I don’t see them winning a trade when it comes to dealing him. He has 2 years left on contract at a great price. If he was UFA after this season it would be a different story.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Why would the Flames want to add Galchenyuk?

It was only an example. Point being, there really isn’t anything of interest to the Flames. That’s precisely why I said I don’t think the Flames make a single trade this season.

[CsInMyBlood]

Players like Dubois dont come around often if ever. Big, physical center, high hockey IQ, drives offense, with a solid 2 way game all at the age of 22?

Monahan is one of the Flames biggest problems. Goes so invisible its ridiculous. His value is still high and if he can net you a player like Dubois I dont see how Treliving doesnt jump all over it.

We all know this team needs a shake up, this opportunity and the timing of it just seems too amazing to me.

Come on Treliving, make this happen before another team does.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by TOfan

It was only an example. Point being, there really isn’t anything of interest to the Flames. That’s precisely why I said I don’t think the Flames make a single trade this season.

The conversation was Dubois, and I would bet that there is definitely interest in that. If you think you can improve your team, you do it. Period.

Adding a high quality player like Dubois, if you can afford the cost, is something you jump on when the opportunity presents itself.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The conversation was Dubois, and I would bet that there is definitely interest in that. If you think you can improve your team, you do it. Period.

Adding a high quality player like Dubois, if you can afford the cost, is something you jump on when the opportunity presents itself.

Yup, Flames would be missing PLD for 8 days assuming no Covid. I'm sure they could time so it is a game or two on both ends.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

Players like Dubois dont come around often if ever. Big, physical center, high hockey IQ, drives offense, with a solid 2 way game all at the age of 22?

Monahan is one of the Flames biggest problems. Goes so invisible its ridiculous. His value is still high and if he can net you a player like Dubois I dont see how Treliving doesnt jump all over it.

We all know this team needs a shake up, this opportunity and the timing of it just seems too amazing to me.

Come on Treliving, make this happen before another team does.

What are you adding? By your own words Dubois is way better than Monahan. A straight up offer gets you laughed out of the room

[keenan87]

Don't the Flames have like an 8 day break after like two games? Perfect time to make a trade now and have PLD ready to go after that break.

[CsInMyBlood]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

What are you adding? By your own words Dubois is way better than Monahan. A straight up offer gets you laughed out of the room

I said before, our first round draft pick or Zary. Columbus can pick which one they would rather.

All indications is that Columbus is looking one for one. Monahan is a center, only 26 with some good stats backing him. Seems like we have something they would have to consider.

The fact that they HAVE to move Dubois. That's the whole equation here. If Dubois wasnt demanding a trade there is no way he would be available.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

From what I saw of Ward's interviews it sounds like the Flames have been following a plan. I doubt they will deviate from this current group and make "strong" changes. I would love Tre to prove me wrong, I doubt he will make a trade for the sake of making a trade. He seems to be pretty loyal. If this season goes sideways I can see Flames gunning for potentially Dubois and Hall.

If Tre was not willing to add Hall this season I doubt he will add Dubois, unless it includes some other pieces. Can't see him trading Rittich at this point after all the work he put in to create a strong tandem.

In my opinion, if the Flames don't make the playoffs or their top players continue to embarrass themselves if they do make it.. Treliving should pack his bags.

He sat around and did nothing to address the core forward group after 2 straight seasons of the top players doing crap all (its not like these players were doing much better before the past 2 seasons either).

He has stuck with his guys. If Gaudreau and Monahan suck again and they are out in the first round, Treliving should be fired immediately.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by keenan87

In my opinion, if the Flames don't make the playoffs or their top players continue to embarrass themselves if they do make it.. Treliving should pack his bags.

He sat around and did nothing to address the core forward group after 2 straight seasons of the top players doing crap all (its not like these players were doing much better before the past 2 seasons either).

He has stuck with his guys. If Gaudreau and Monahan suck again and they are out in the first round, Treliving should be fired immediately.

Another classic brutal take.

2 seasons ago Monahan had 82pts and Gaudreau 99 which were career seasons and you are saying there were doing crap all?

Do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you post crap like that?

If you are talking about just the playoffs you do don’t make that clear but the reality is the top forwards (Tkachuk and Lindholm included) didn’t get it done in the last 2 playoffs and in the case of Monahan and Gaudreau they are coming off relatively poor regular seasons by their standards.

This offseason I would have been fine making either Monahan or Gaudreau available in trade but you need another team to give up what the Flames need. I rather keep those players than force a bad trade like Sutter did with Phaneuf

[bigpete]

https://thehockeywriters.com/flames-...-trade-target/

Suggests Dubois is a play driver and trending to be elite. Also suggests price tag could be upwards of Monahan, 1st, Kylington, Pelletier/Zary.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Another classic brutal take.

2 seasons ago Monahan had 82pts and Gaudreau 99 which were career seasons and you are saying there were doing crap all?

Do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you post crap like that?

If you are talking about just the playoffs you do don’t make that clear but the reality is the top forwards (Tkachuk and Lindholm included) didn’t get it done in the last 2 playoffs and in the case of Monahan and Gaudreau they are coming off relatively poor regular seasons by their standards.

This offseason I would have been fine making either Monahan or Gaudreau available in trade but you need another team to give up what the Flames need. I rather keep those players than force a bad trade like Sutter did with Phaneuf

Its okay, you are a pretty big Flames homer. Not worth arguing with posters like you. The Flames can never do anything wrong for posters like you on this forum. Regardless of being a horrible franchise for decades when it comes to outcomes.

Gaudreau and Monahan haven't done jack #### for about 2 calendar years now. Since the All Star break in 2019. This is not only 1 season. You speak of the 99 points and 82 points.. how about you do a little breakdown of PPG from before and after the All Star Game in 2019?

These are two secondary players that were given a shot to lead a team and have done absolutely nothing with it. Treliving deciding to stick with the same crap core every year shows his incompetence.

Its pathetic, so many posters in love with Treliving when he hasn't produced much results at all besides switching coaches and goalies every year.

As for no available trades, give me a break. Other teams make trades all the time while the Flames are left standing there. Maybe its Treliving who is not very smart for always over valuing his players.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by bigpete

https://thehockeywriters.com/flames-...-trade-target/

Suggests Dubois is a play driver and trending to be elite. Also suggests price tag could be upwards of Monahan, 1st, Kylington, Pelletier/Zary.

That seems like way too much. Monahan, basically 2 1sts, and Kylington?

[dammage79]

Bottom line is. The team over all wasn't deep enough for the playoffs. Monahan and Gaudreau were top 3 in points last playoffs. Monny tied with playoff Bennett. They maybe weren't good enough for a deep run but there's bigger fish to fry then sending your best center out the door. They were exactly where you want a teams leading players to be, leading the team in scoring.

All I am saying is Monahans overall body of work warrants a leave of criticism until we see how this season pans out.

1 off year should not undermine a really important players body of work.

They led the team. Id argue the rest weren't up to snuff.