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Old 10-23-2020, 10:35 AM   #7441
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Not at all. I'm just becoming even more bored by people contorting themselves and the race as much as they possibly can to try and make it seem like a legit horserace.
Concern about another 2016 and how there was way too much “Hillary has it in the bag, vote your conscience” business. I hope there are more stories about it being closer than we think, drive democratic voter turnout even more. Voter apathy is a dangerous thing.
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Old 10-23-2020, 10:37 AM   #7442
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That's the thing though, the paranoia shows that people aren't gonna take chances which is part of what makes this so boring. That 2016 ever happened will, at least for this cycle, ensure no complacency. Whether it matters past this year is anyone's guess.
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Right now is about as promising for Biden and America as could have been hoped for during the last three years. There's still the uncertainty of contested results, the ongoing virus issues, the damage to the economy and financial system, the SCOTUS situation, the general corruption in government, the division between left and right with separate media bubbles, the climate change-related disasters and the terrible wealth gap to face if Biden does get in, but in terms of the prospects of him winning the vote things are looking pretty good.
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Old 10-23-2020, 11:31 AM   #7444
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o. m. ####ing. god.

In a long line of pathetic things, this is one of the most cringeworthy.
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I guess we know whose ass Bibi thinks he’s gonna have to kiss in two weeks.
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I didn’t really know the context when I pressed play and thought he was doing his Moira Schitt impression when he said “Bibi”
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Nothing is going to top the church photo op and the time he rolled out that propaganda strokefest video presentation in the middle of a coronavirus update. Just surreal.

However, it was pretty satisfying to see him crushed when "Bibi" didn't give him the answer he was desperately hoping for. Beautiful agony.
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Does anyone remember when Joe Biden was considered to be the inappropriate rambling old fool? Boy how times have changed!
I’m pretty sure he still is, but he’s the lesser evil. I don’t think that many people are excited to vote for Biden, but they’re looking forward to voting against Trump.
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These people are ####ing insane.

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We obviously can't know, but I wonder what the polls would have been looking like right now if not for covid. For as much harm as it is doing, in some respect I feel like the virus is the savior of American democracy.
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The VAST majority of Americans want fossil fuels phased out...even in the swing states

The "I heart Oil" types weren't voting for Biden or democrat anyway
Avoiding the whole oil debate here and just trying to speak politically...

I’d suggest the vast majority of folks with whom “phase out oil” resonates are firmly pro-Biden and that a large segment of the undecideds/leans in pro-oil states like Texas and Pennsylvania are torn between pro-oil and anti-Trump feelings. This was a landmine and Biden bellyflopped right onto it. It was dumb.
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We obviously can't know, but I wonder what the polls would have been looking like right now if not for covid. For as much harm as it is doing, in some respect I feel like the virus is the savior of American democracy.

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We obviously can't know, but I wonder what the polls would have been looking like right now if not for covid. For as much harm as it is doing, in some respect I feel like the virus is the savior of American democracy.

Assuming the economy stayed healthy (as measured by the stock markets and unemployment numbers at least) and without the endless opportunities to show his incompetence and callousness that Covid provided I think he would be re-elected.
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Avoiding the whole oil debate here and just trying to speak politically...

I’d suggest the vast majority of folks with whom “phase out oil” resonates are firmly pro-Biden and that a large segment of the undecideds/leans in pro-oil states like Texas and Pennsylvania are torn between pro-oil and anti-Trump feelings. This was a landmine and Biden bellyflopped right onto it. It was dumb.
Do the vast majority of people want fossil fuels phased out?

Maybe we should ask the vast majority of Californians what they think about their 'green' state right now?

The argument is laughable at best right now, and I'm about as pro solar/wind/nuclear/EV/battery storage as anyone on here.
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Why would anyone watch that when the NFC East is on?
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We obviously can't know, but I wonder what the polls would have been looking like right now if not for covid. For as much harm as it is doing, in some respect I feel like the virus is the savior of American democracy.
Hard to say. If COVID never existed, it might be a closer race, but I think the unrest from the summer has been just as big of a motivation to get more people out to vote, especially minorities.

If COVID did exist, but Trump was very successful at handling it, it probably would have been enough to get him re-elected. If it never existed and no one knew anything different, it's anyone's guess in my opinion. My guess is that something else would have blown up on him. We only ever hear about the situations that get out of control, but I am sure there are things presidents deal with that we never hear about due to national security concerns. With people as dumb as the Trump dynasty running the show, it was probably only a matter of time until some nefarious slipped through to hurt Americans.

COVID has also seemed to embolden extremists, so the long term impact, even if Trump loses, might be net loss if Biden cannot turn things around in 4 years.
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Do the vast majority of people want fossil fuels phased out?
Yes, they do.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/248006/...ssil-fuel.aspx

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/12...th-a-headline/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/conte...nline_manual_5

https://w3.windfair.net/wind-energy/...iew-green-deal

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2...worth-headline

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Maybe we should ask the vast majority of Californians what they think about their 'green' state right now?
Yes, we should. Seeing as their state, and the other up the west coast are all on fire because of climate change greatly magnified by ICE pollution, I think it would be interesting to see what their take it. Oh wait, they already have a number of pieces of legislation already codified into law that will increase the speed by which the state moves away from fossil fuels.

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The argument is laughable at best right now, and I'm about as pro solar/wind/nuclear/EV/battery storage as anyone on here.
Hahahaha. The stupid #### you type would be entertaining if you didn't believe it so fervently.
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