10-13-2020, 03:04 PM
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#2601
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
While I'm sure Treliving tried to improve the forward group I am shocked that he's not made any moves to the top 6. I just don't think it's good enough to make any noise in the playoffs.
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Playoffs are in 8 months...at least
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10-13-2020, 03:05 PM
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#2602
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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"It's a great day for hockey."
-'Badger' Bob Johnson (1931-1991)
"I see as much misery out of them moving to justify theirselves as them that set out to do harm."
-Dr. Amos "Doc" Cochran
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10-13-2020, 03:07 PM
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#2603
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
While I'm sure Treliving tried to improve the forward group I am shocked that he's not made any moves to the top 6. I just don't think it's good enough to make any noise in the playoffs.
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He just added a top 6 player two years ago, what kind of miracles are you expecting? In a couple years we’ll add another top 6 player and we can continue this exercise.
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10-13-2020, 03:20 PM
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#2604
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ResAlien
He just added a top 6 player two years ago, what kind of miracles are you expecting? In a couple years we’ll add another top 6 player and we can continue this exercise.
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Continue the exercise of losing in the first round? Great. Supplementing your top 6 does not require a miracle. The group we have simply isn't good enough. I'm not going to go all Eric Francis and call them all junk but as a group they just haven't been good enough in the playoffs and I'm not exactly sure what the plan is with Gaudreau if they are going to do the Iginla thing all over again or what.
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10-13-2020, 03:21 PM
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#2605
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Continue the exercise of losing in the first round? Great. Supplementing your top 6 does not require a miracle. The group we have simply isn't good enough. I'm not going to go all Eric Francis and call them all junk but as a group they just haven't been good enough and I'm not exactly sure what the plan is with Gaudreau if they are going to do the Iginla thing all over again or what.
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Make no mistake every single rock will be overturned looking for a solution before they either trade him for peanuts to the only team he’ll agree to go to or lose him for nothing. This is the way.
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10-13-2020, 03:48 PM
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#2606
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Continue the exercise of losing in the first round? Great. Supplementing your top 6 does not require a miracle. The group we have simply isn't good enough. I'm not going to go all Eric Francis and call them all junk but as a group they just haven't been good enough in the playoffs and I'm not exactly sure what the plan is with Gaudreau if they are going to do the Iginla thing all over again or what.
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Why would you expect the ownership group to behave differently then the last 30 years!
We will hold on to this team as long as possible and hope for a miracle run!
If you think they signed Markstum and Tanev to trade JG for 'parts' prepare to continue to be disapointed/surprised
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10-13-2020, 04:06 PM
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#2607
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
While I'm sure Treliving tried to improve the forward group I am shocked that he's not made any moves to the top 6. I just don't think it's good enough to make any noise in the playoffs.
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I feel like a trade will happen.
Unless Mangiapane signs for less than $3million we will already not be able to fill out a 22 man roster - assuming the remaining pieces are signed at league minimum.
I don’t imagine Tre wants the cap that tight even if Mangiapane signs for less than 3 and that isn’t even with a full 23 man roster.
You’d have to think Ryan is on the block and if they want to do something bigger a guy like Hanifin seems likely to be swapped for a RWer.
There are still a ton of guys that are looking for work and will likely sign a cheap 1yr deal and wait for the expansion draft to pass and open up more cap space for NHL players to take up league wide.
Lucic’s contract and the Brouwer/Stone buyouts are just under $8mill in cap space. 
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10-13-2020, 04:11 PM
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#2608
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Transactions have ground to a crawl league wide. Theres still over a month until the proposed training camp start so I dont see much happening until at the very least, Arbitration is done. Or around the time hearings commence.
Still some rock solid FAs twisting in the wind though. Holding off I bet for teams to work out some things.
EDIT: and after listening to Trelivings post Tanev and Domingue interview, he's not done. But like he said, trade market is mushy and FA has gone exactly how they've anticipated it to go.
Last edited by dammage79; 10-13-2020 at 04:14 PM.
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10-13-2020, 04:20 PM
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#2609
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Franchise Player
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Sign Del Zotto - 1 year, $900k
Sign Ruuta - 1 year, $900k
Sign Leivo - 1 year, $950k
Sign Ritchie - 1 year, $750k
Trade Hanifin to Boston for Debrusk
Re-sign Mangiapane 2 years, $2,750,000
Re-sign Debrusk - 2 years, $3,500,000
Re-sign Gawdin - 1 year, $787,500
Re-sign Kylington - 1 year, $787,500
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Mangiapane
Debrusk - Bennett - Dube
Lucic - Ryan - Leivo
Gawdin, Ritchie
Giordano - Andersson
Del Zotto - Tanev
Valimaki - Ruuta
Kylington
Markstrom
Rittich
Cap space - $35k (lol)
Del Zotto can log minutes and bring some offense while being paired with our best defensive Dman, ease Valimaki in and eventually he starts eating away at DZ's minutes.
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10-13-2020, 04:30 PM
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#2610
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Sign Del Zotto - 1 year, $900k
Sign Ruuta - 1 year, $900k
Sign Leivo - 1 year, $950k
Sign Ritchie - 1 year, $750k
Trade Hanifin to Boston for Debrusk
Re-sign Mangiapane 2 years, $2,750,000
Re-sign Debrusk - 2 years, $3,500,000
Re-sign Gawdin - 1 year, $787,500
Re-sign Kylington - 1 year, $787,500
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Mangiapane
Debrusk - Bennett - Dube
Lucic - Ryan - Leivo
Gawdin, Ritchie
Giordano - Andersson
Del Zotto - Tanev
Valimaki - Ruuta
Kylington
Markstrom
Rittich
Cap space - $35k (lol)
Del Zotto can log minutes and bring some offense while being paired with our best defensive Dman, ease Valimaki in and eventually he starts eating away at DZ's minutes.
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If we were to trade Hanifin, why would we do so in order to acquire a LS winger?
I, for one, would be livid.
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10-13-2020, 04:31 PM
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#2611
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Powerplay Quarterback
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It sounds like Hamonic wants to stay in Western Canada, I wonder if he would take $1m or less to stay in Calgary. He isn't a top 4 anymore, but I think he can still fill a role on the 3rd pair. Give Valimaki a vet to play with, and play in the top 4 if Tanev gets injured.
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10-13-2020, 04:32 PM
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#2612
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Continue the exercise of losing in the first round? Great. Supplementing your top 6 does not require a miracle. The group we have simply isn't good enough. I'm not going to go all Eric Francis and call them all junk but as a group they just haven't been good enough in the playoffs and I'm not exactly sure what the plan is with Gaudreau if they are going to do the Iginla thing all over again or what.
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Flames would have won a round this year with better goaltending.
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10-13-2020, 04:32 PM
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#2613
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
and after listening to Trelivings post Tanev and Domingue interview, he's not done. But like he said, trade market is mushy and FA has gone exactly how they've anticipated it to go.
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Where did you see/hear this?
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10-13-2020, 04:33 PM
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#2614
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JTech780
It sounds like Hamonic wants to stay in Western Canada, I wonder if he would take $1m or less to stay in Calgary. He isn't a top 4 anymore, but I think he can still fill a role on the 3rd pair. Give Valimaki a vet to play with, and play in the top 4 if Tanev gets injured.
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Gio
Andersson
Valimaki
Hanifin
Tanev
Hamonic
Kylington
Mackey
Yelesin
Petrovic
I certainly wouldn’t be against it if the price was right!
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10-13-2020, 04:33 PM
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#2615
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JTech780
It sounds like Hamonic wants to stay in Western Canada, I wonder if he would take $1m or less to stay in Calgary. He isn't a top 4 anymore, but I think he can still fill a role on the 3rd pair. Give Valimaki a vet to play with, and play in the top 4 if Tanev gets injured.
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Doubt he even plays next year unless things change. If he opted out of a bubble when cases were low is he going to change his mind when the situation is just as if not more risky?
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10-13-2020, 04:33 PM
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#2616
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Franchise Player
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I actually was working on a roster that involves trading Gaudreau for Foresberg, and it looks quite good in my opinion. Also included trading Mangiapane's rights for Deangelo's rights both are 24, and NYR has considered trading him. Finally, trading Hanifin for Debrusk's rights, it really seems like Boston could use Hanifin, and it works for the Flames as well. I rounded the 4th line by signing Perry, and Martin, I think they would both be great additions.
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Trades:
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10-13-2020, 04:35 PM
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#2617
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by New Era
Where did you see/hear this?
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Fan 960. Steinberg interview.
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10-13-2020, 04:37 PM
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#2618
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanCharles
If we were to trade Hanifin, why would we do so in order to acquire a LS winger?
I, for one, would be livid.
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Yeah I'd rather a right shot C myself, but I don't see one that is likely available anywhere from a team that needs a young left D. You'd also want the returning forward to be roughly the same age as Hanifin, under team control for multiple years, and it's also preferable that the forward likely comes cheaper than Hanifin, because the other reason you are trading Hanifin is to gain some cap space to fill out the roster.
Debrusk checks all the boxes, except for the fact he is a left shot.
Seeing as how Dube and Mangiapane both play their off wing a lot, it wouldn't be the worst acquisition IMO.
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10-13-2020, 04:38 PM
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#2619
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by neo45
Doubt he even plays next year unless things change. If he opted out of a bubble when cases were low is he going to change his mind when the situation is just as if not more risky?
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I thought I read that he approached the Jets about signing there. So I think he is looking to play next year, but it is a valid point and you could be right.
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10-13-2020, 04:39 PM
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#2620
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I like Hamonic but I think it's best for all that he not play here, no matter the price.
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