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Old 10-07-2020, 01:14 PM   #61
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I can live with any of the following:

4x 7M
5x 6.5M
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Bidding war between Oilers and Flames for a Canucks goalie?

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do you think he'd take something like...Oh, I don't know...what about 7x8.25M?
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I can live with any of the following:

4x 7M
5x 6.5M
6x 6M

I'd say no to all of these as the Canucks.
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I can live with any of the following:

4x 7M
5x 6.5M
6x 6M
When is the last time a 91.1% goalie got 7 million.
I don't even think Markstrom would think this is fair value.
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Vancouver radio guys saying the Oilers are going hard for Markstrom. That would suck
They could maybe afford him this year. Next year they have a few signings that make it really tough to give him a decent offer. He also has to ask himself if he wants to ruin his career and If he wants to live in Edmonton.
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When is the last time a 91.1% goalie got 7 million.
I don't even think Markstrom would think this is fair value.
If he wasn't on one of the worst defensive teams those numbers would be much better.

Guy was 4th in Vezina voting (voted by GMs) and is the top goalie available assuming he is
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I can live with any of the following:

4x 7M
5x 6.5M
6x 6M
I'm not even close to that. My comfort level ceiling is more like:

4 x 6M;
5 x 5M;
6 x 4M.

I guess there will probably be higher bidders than that, and I'm okay with that.
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I'm not even close to that. My comfort level ceiling is more like:

4 x 6M;
5 x 5M;
6 x 4M.

I guess there will probably be higher bidders than that, and I'm okay with that.
It's weird you are equally comfortable with the same contact cost over 4 or 6 years (24 million)

Shouldn't you be exponentially more comfortable with a 6 year deal at the same $$ amount then a 4 year deal? Why would you want to pay your goalie the same amount over a shorter period?

Why would Markstrum ever take the 3rd deal over the 1st?
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It's weird you are comfortable with the same contact cost over 4 or 6 years (24 million)

Shouldn't you be exponentially more comfortable with a 6 year deal at the same $$ amount then a 4 year deal? Why would you want to pay your goalie the same amount over a shorter period?
Well, aren't you a stickler for details.

Somehow it made sense at the time I was typing it...
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Well, aren't you a stickler for details.

Somehow it made sense at the time I was typing it...
It's funny I've done it before too (With Brodie and then looked at though - hmmm that doesn't make sense
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Well, aren't you a stickler for details.

Somehow it made sense at the time I was typing it...
It can make sense. It depends on the fall off for a goalie, and cap space, and age.
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It's weird you are equally comfortable with the same contact cost over 4 or 6 years (24 million)

Shouldn't you be exponentially more comfortable with a 6 year deal at the same $$ amount then a 4 year deal? Why would you want to pay your goalie the same amount over a shorter period?
To be honest, if I'm only gonna get four productive years out of a player, I don't want to be back-paying him in the final two years. It's just dead cap space.
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To be honest, if I'm only gonna get four productive years out of a player, I don't want to be back-paying him in the final two years. It's just dead cap space.
That’s what I was trying to get at above.
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If he wasn't on one of the worst defensive teams those numbers would be much better.

Guy was 4th in Vezina voting (voted by GMs) and is the top goalie available assuming he is
Last year Lehner was 3rd in Vezina voting. Had 93%.
He then signed a 1 year deal for $5 million. His career save percentage was 92%, despite having spent most of his time on Ottawa and a rebuilding Buffalo team.

Halak was the best free agent goalie in 2018. Hardly got any money. His career save percentage is 91.6% (still much higher than Markstrom). He's even better in the playoffs too.

This year, teams are strapped for cap, and the cap is flat for 3 years.
I think Markstrom deserves some money for his last season (which was good, but not that good).
However, anyone would be crazy to give him 4 or more years of term. Not enough of a track record. Too old. Even from 2017 to 2019, in 120 games, he only had 91.2%. Not terribly bad, but nothing special for a goalie in their prime. He is 30 years old (31 in a few months) and has one above average season. One. In a contract year. And he only played 43 games in this one season.

I just can't fathom how so many people think 43 games of 91.8% deserves a $40,000,000 contract. Especially when the player is old and the cap is flat and there are better UFA goalie options next year.

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I am excited.

Stupid Thursday in the way. Get outta here Thursday, I want some of that Friday stuff!
A lot of lame-ness lined up for my Thursday too. It can definitely buzz off.
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With what cap?
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Says Oilers are closing in on Markstrom
Like the Oilers have been given permission by the Canucks to negotiate with him. I never believe sources like this.
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