Minneapolis PD Suffocate Unarmed Black Man Who Later Dies in Hospital

[calgarybornnraised]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

I don't think I have suggested that cops are allowed to kill people that they perceive as non-threatening.

No, that would be to definite of a statement from you. How else could you run the conversation in circles.

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

There are a number of scenarios where this could be true. For instance, the Kyle kid might not have been posing a threat when they went to arrest him, where Jacob Blake was. We simply don't yet know.

We do know they weren't justified in shooting the Kyle kid because they took him into custody without incident. So by definition, he did not need to be shot. On the other hand, we don't know the what happened in the Jacob Blake situation yet.

There isn't a lot of value in analyzing the two cases together. Whatever good or bad happened in each situation, we can determine that independently of the events in the other situation.

[troutman]

Kenny Smith walks off 'NBA on TNT' set in solidarity with player strike

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/kenny-smit...225515925.html

“I think the biggest thing now — as a black man and a former player — I think it’s best for me to not be here tonight,” Smith said.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by Looch City

So now the goal post is "jumping to conclusions"?

Okay then here's one for you:

What gives police officers the right to jump to conclusions and end lives (whether innocent OR guilty) when the defendant is not threatening?

Are you saying a subject with a known criminal past, an active warrant for raping a female, carrying a knife, scuffling with officers, not complying with orders, is not a threat? Because in the case of Jacob Blake, this is what the police have to go on.

We don’t know what was said, did he threaten them verbally?
“I will kill you pigs” Given what we know, a statement as simple as that , and Blake’s actions that followed (not showing his hands, reaching into his for????) in the heat of battle would escalate this to what happened.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by Ped

Your viewpoints have long gone past trolling into downright despicable, disgusting behaviour. People who argue the same BS you've been spouting and shifting and spewing are one of the reasons some people think it's okay for a black guy who may or may not have a record to get shot 7 times in the back while a white guy can walk down the street with a loaded weapon.


You should be more than embarrassed, but predictably, you're not.

I'm advocating for the public to allow the justice system to work through the facts and determine where wrongdoing might have occurred (either by the police or by a civilian). I don't believe that to be a particularly controversial position.

Instead, what I read is a lot of people coming to a lot of conclusions based on incomplete information and shaky-cam phone footage.

Our justice system is clearly far from perfect and does not always arrive at the correct conclusion (guilty people being set free or innocent people being sent to prison).

But it's still the most fair system we've got.

[Bunk]

Flames ahead of the curve. Boycotted the rest of the playoffs last week.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Good people on all sides... especially in the front row of a Trump rally.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...se-trump-rally

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by New Era

Good people on all sides... especially in the front row of a Trump rally.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...se-trump-rally

Too bad this didn't happen earlier, or he could have been invited to speak at the RNC.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Are you saying a subject with a known criminal past, an active warrant for raping a female, carrying a knife, scuffling with officers, not complying with orders, is not a threat? Because in the case of Jacob Blake, this is what the police have to go on.

We don’t know what was said, did he threaten them verbally?
“I will kill you pigs” Given what we know, a statement as simple as that , and Blake’s actions that followed (not showing his hands, reaching into his for????) in the heat of battle would escalate this to what happened.

Believe it or not, carrying a knife which you’re asked to drop, and then walking to your car and saying “I will kill you pigs” is not, in fact, good justification to shoot someone in the back seven times!

Crazy, I know.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Believe it or not, carrying a knife which you’re asked to drop, and then walking to your car and saying “I will kill you pigs” is not, in fact, good justification to shoot someone in the back seven times!

Crazy, I know.

Your analysis does not contain all of the details, many of which are very likely relevant.

[Looch City]

Shoot first, figure out the details later.

Or wait actually it's, shoot first, then 6 more times. Then figure out the details.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

That would be this kid. 17 year old little murderer. Quite the patriot

Yay america.

Incredible. Like something out of a Stephen King novel. You couldn't make this #### up.

[ignite09]

Yeah, it's kind of sad how the posters who defend the police officers actions the most in these scenarios seem to have the lowest standards for their behavior.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Shoot first, figure out the details later.

Or wait actually it's, shoot first, then 6 more times. Then figure out the details.

And the correct response according to this thread is:

outrage first, then investigate what actually happened later.

(I realize that having an itchy trigger finger on an internet-forum is a pretty low consequence thing and it makes people feel validated when they can express outrage.)

But the best course of action is to be rational, not impulsive.

[PepsiFree]

So desperate for attention, just begging for responses.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by ignite09

Yeah, it's kind of sad how the posters who defend the police officers actions the most in these scenarios seem to have the lowest standards for their behavior.

Some of them hold Black victims to higher standards than White murderers, let alone police. You could read a couple of their posts in isolation and think the two situations we’re talking about is a White 17 year old being naughty by carrying a gun underage, and a Black criminal having his reign of terror ended by heroic cops.

Sad is being generous.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

So desperate for attention, just begging for responses.

Pot meet kettle.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by New Era

Good people on all sides... especially in the front row of a Trump rally.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...se-trump-rally

I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked!

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Pot meet kettle.

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Some of them hold Black victims to higher standards than White murderers, let alone police. You could read a couple of their posts in isolation and think the two situations we’re talking about is a White 17 year old being naughty by carrying a gun underage, and a Black criminal having his reign of terror ended by heroic cops.

Sad is being generous.

In the Reddit thread where I found the video they were saying Antifa was coming to “execute” the kid so he had no choice but to defend himself. The people he shot, especially the guy who got his arm nearly blown off, didn’t look like they could execute a fly.