2019-20 Raptors and General NBA Thread

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Looch City

The boycott is a form of peaceful protest...

I get it...I just don't think it is effective

You really think the american government cares of NBA players don't play? Right now they are on national TV every night...end the season then what?

[devo22]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I get it...I just don't think it is effective

You really think the american government cares of NBA players don't play? Right now they are on national TV every night...end the season then what?

this boycott is making bigger headlines than any NBA game could ever make. And it certainly is making bigger headlines than any "#BlackLivesMatter" on a jersey or court could ever make.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by devo22

this boycott is making bigger headlines than any NBA game could ever make. And it certainly is making bigger headlines than any "#BlackLivesMatter" on a jersey or court could ever make.

For a day.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Kinda feel for Adam Silver, he's been arguably the best commissioner in sports, but he's dealing with a monumental issue that is beyond his control.

I kinda feel bad for the children of Jacob Blake, whose father will never walk again. That'd be another way to look at this.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

For a day.

maybe, but I think that's a cynical way to look at it. You never know which sort of dialogue and movement such protests can lead to, and I take that over "the show must go on" any day.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

NBA team owners have some of the deepest pockets in America

They want to owners to put pressure on government to make changes.

Owners, advertisers, networks, .....

I don’t know what any of them can actually do though.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

For a day.

Some of the biggest historical civil rights movements lasted only a day or less.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by devo22

this boycott is making bigger headlines than any NBA game could ever make. And it certainly is making bigger headlines than any "#BlackLivesMatter" on a jersey or court could ever make.

For a couple days...

"Millionaire athletes boycott playing kids game" is how the GOP will spin it

doesn't change any minds IMO...Most Trumpers/far rights are probably happy they aren't playing. The current US government doesn't give a flying F about the NBA

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by dino7c

For a couple days...

"Millionaire athletes boycott playing kids game"

doesn't change any minds IMO...Most Trumpers/far rights are probably happy they aren't playing

The deplorables won't be turned. They don't matter because they're not the majority anyway. It's about getting the message to those in the middle, those are still silent.

[calgarybornnraised]

I think it’s a very powerful statement, especially with Milwaukee being the team to boycott. There’s more important things that effect them going on back home.

[dino7c]

There are always more important things than sports

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Acey

I kinda feel bad for the children of Jacob Blake, whose father will never walk again. That'd be another way to look at this.

Shockingly, you can actually feel two (or more even!) different things at once.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Shockingly, you can actually feel two (or more even!) different things at once.

Of course you can.

I was alluding more to the fact that for me personally the plight of Adam Silver tonight is not something that will even come close to crossing my mind.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by dino7c

For a couple days...

"Millionaire athletes boycott playing kids game" is how the GOP will spin it

doesn't change any minds IMO...Most Trumpers/far rights are probably happy they aren't playing. The current US government doesn't give a flying F about the NBA

change would never happen if we all just said "meh, what's the point?". You need action if you actually do want to change something, and it just happens that these players have a platform to do this. They have my admiration for it.

As for the Trumpists, you can't convince those anyway.

[TheScorpion]

Well I'm sure the shut up and dribble crowd will love to hate this. But from my vantage point I think it's a very powerful statement that I hope doesn't fall on deaf ears. But as long as the GOP is in power I have a feeling those earplugs ain't coming out.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Acey

Of course you can.

I was alluding more to the fact that for me personally the plight of Adam Silver tonight is not something that will even come close to crossing my mind.

If he mismanages this situation, the league could suffer irreparable harm. As a basketball fan I don't envy his predicament. He's done mostly good, and yet it could all come undone.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by devo22

change would never happen if we all just said "meh, what's the point?". You need action if you actually do want to change something, and it just happens that these players have a platform to do this. They have my admiration for it.

As for the Trumpists, you can't convince those anyway.

There are more than two options...its not boycott or meh

I don't think this will be effective...they shut down the bubble playoffs and they won't have a platform anymore. And what is the message? we wont play Bball unless what? change?

If Trump wins again are they going to cut 4 years off their careers?


On the flip side they painted themselves into a corner...if the games are just rescheduled it just means another few nights in a luxury hotel, big sacrifice losing ZERO dollars

[Enoch Root]

I support the move. More needs to be done because things are getting worse, not better.

We are steamrolling towards civil unrest, like in the 60s. Maybe it'll be worse this time.

If boycotting some basketball games can help, then great. Let's do it.

[bluejays]

Guys, this isn’t about that it’s the right thing to do. It’s about what’s effective and what definitive steps they are wanting the owners to take up with their politicians. That’s the part that gets to me. It’s a game and there’s more to life than a sport but if you’re going to take a stand such as this, you may as well give the owners a week and call them out as a whole and say, “we want you to publicly say what steps and who you’ve met in local government to ask for change, and what steps they’ve promised. If you don’t, we’ll walk out.” Walking out on a whim without goals comes across as disorganized. Heart in a good place but it’s an opportunity lost with a league who hasn’t silenced anyone (except if there’s a strong position on China) ��.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by fleury

Guys, this isn’t about that it’s the right thing to do. It’s about what’s effective and what definitive steps they are wanting the owners to take up with their politicians. That’s the part that gets to me. It’s a game and there’s more to life than a sport but if you’re going to take a stand such as this, you may as well give the owners a week and call them out as a whole and say, “we want you to publicly say what steps and who you’ve met in local government to ask for change, and what steps they’ve promised. If you don’t, we’ll walk out.” Walking out on a whim without goals comes across as disorganized. Heart in a good place but it’s an opportunity lost with a league who hasn’t silenced anyone (except if there’s a strong position on China) ��.

Yes! Should have been done before going to the bubble in the wake of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor. But now the NBA has already put in the work to create the bubble, a great atmosphere, and a great platform for messaging and support. So it makes it appear like they were fine with it, until this latest shooting.