Should progressives and liberals view the Lincoln Project Republicans as full-fledged converts, or as temporary allies of convenience, or as an ideological Trojan horse virus that will co-opt the Democratic Party from within if allowed to ride anti-Trump sentiment into the party’s good graces?
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But this has unleashed a counter-narrative: The Lincoln Project is working to insulate conservatism from blame for Trump so it can rise again. Its condemnations of Trump don’t acknowledge the GOP’s culpability for creating the conditions for his rise. Allowing the group influence over a Joe Biden presidency will cripple his ability to rescue the country.
I hope people read the full article, because the snippet you've posted really doesn't do the content of it any justice whatsoever. If that quote is the only thing one takes away from the article, they're less informed for having done so.
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The Lincoln Project’s declared mission is “defeating Trump and Trumpism at the ballot box.” That includes a pledge to elect Democrats over Republicans who, like Trump, do not “support the Constitution.”
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But how deep does this commitment to democracy really run? One test is whether the Lincoln Project is breaking permanently with the GOP embrace of voter suppression, gerrymandering and other anti-democratic tactics. Pressed on this, Weaver insisted the break is genuine. He told me the Lincoln Project is committed to ensuring that the “drive-by Jim Crowism in many parts of the country is put to an end.” After towering civil rights icon John Lewis passed away, the Lincoln Project released a video extolling his role in the struggle for voting rights and linked it to today’s protests against police brutality, declaring that Americans can honor his legacy this fall by “exercising the right to vote.”
But will the Lincoln Project remain committed to concrete expansions of voting rights after Trump is gone? Weaver said yes, noting it will keep advocating for automatic voter registration and a restored Voting Rights Act, and continue fighting efforts to “make it difficult for black people or poor people to vote.”
“No more of that,” Weaver said.
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The Lincoln Project’s efforts to get right on racial issues have also included scalding attacks on Trump’s racism and support for the Confederacy, such as this “Flag of Treason” video.
But this raises another question — whether the Lincoln Project accepts the GOP’s own role in laying the groundwork for the moment. That includes the “Southern Strategy,” toleration of the Confederate flag, and a less blatant anti-immigrant sentiment that Trump made more explicit. Pressed on this, Weaver made an interesting concession. He allowed that he helped elect Jeff Sessions to the Senate in the 1990s. Given Sessions’s racially charged history and his longtime role in building a U.S. nativist movement, Weaver allowed this had contributed in its own small way to pushing the GOP toward a Trump takeover.
“I have my own atonement to do every day about that,” Weaver told me. “Did I contribute to putting a brick in the road to where we are today? Yeah, I did.”
In Weaver’s own telling, conceding complicity in creating conditions for Trump’s rise is crucial to remaking the GOP. Which sheds light on how that might hopefully remain a Lincoln Project goal in a salutary way.
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Typical dumb take.
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I hope people read the full article, because the snippet you've posted really doesn't do the content of it any justice whatsoever. If that quote is the only thing one takes away from the article, they're less informed for having done so.
It is just the introduction of the article with a superfluous paragraph taken out to keep the snippet short. I didn't intend for it to be the takeaway, simply a description of what I was linking to so people would know if they wanted to click on it.
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This individual is not affluent and more of a member of that shrinking middle class. It is likely the individual does not have a high paying job, is limited on benefits, and has to make due with those benefits provided by employer.
I don't think the people behind the Lincoln Project have ever claimed to be stepping away from their Conservative foundation to join those on the left in any way long term. They've actually been quite clear that they stand for real Conservatives and against Trump. I'd also disagree that they haven't held various GOP members responsible for Trump's rise. They have at least one ad listing out names of GOP members of Congress, reminding the viewers that they supported Trump the entire way.
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Rick Wilson of the Lincoln Project was on the Pivot Podcast recently. He was clearly a smart, well spoken guy with a single-minded view to defeat Trump. Still a conservative, but when pressed by Kara Swisher that once Trump is defeated, the Lincoln Project could just take aim at the Democrats as a political weapon for the GOP, he responded that (paraphrasing) his GOP is gone. Trump has totally changed the party in the near term, and he would expect the next Rebublican nominee to be in the Tom Cotton/Tucker Carlson mold. Someone he would not support.
Kara was somewhat dubious to that assertion, but that was what he said.
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That sounds about right. The state of the modern day GOP is basically the equivalent of the Wild Rose Party infiltrating and taking over the Alberta PCs.
I'm sure it's been mentioned here already, but Trump is resuming his daily Coronavirus Task Force updates today at 5pm et. I'm guessing his campaign feels that having him appear daily in front of the people has more benefits than the negative stories that have resulted through things he says during them in the past (e.g. his request to Birx to explore the effects of bleach and light within the body to combat the virus, etc.).
I'm guessing they'll try to not take any questions from the media and just let Trump get his message out there every day.
Rick Wilson of the Lincoln Project was on the Pivot Podcast recently. He was clearly a smart, well spoken guy with a single-minded view to defeat Trump. Still a conservative, but when pressed by Kara Swisher that once Trump is defeated, the Lincoln Project could just take aim at the Democrats as a political weapon for the GOP, he responded that (paraphrasing) his GOP is gone. Trump has totally changed the party in the near term, and he would expect the next Rebublican nominee to be in the Tom Cotton/Tucker Carlson mold. Someone he would not support.
Kara was somewhat dubious to that assertion, but that was what he said.
Until any of the Lincoln Project members apologize for their roles in the Bush administration, specifically when it comes Iraq, it's pretty hard to accept their "reformed conservative" gimmick with any kind of sincerity.
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Until any of the Lincoln Project members apologize for their roles in the Bush administration, specifically when it comes Iraq, it's pretty hard to accept their "reformed conservative" gimmick with any kind of sincerity.
That is fair. I don't recall the exact quote, but I think Wilson did show some contrition and conceded to the idea that the GOP may be a product, at least in part, of what they did in the past.
In any event, it doesn't really matter, in my mind. They are on the side of good for this election, and the Dems should be able to take a page out of their playbook, given how effective they seem to be.
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Until any of the Lincoln Project members apologize for their roles in the Bush administration, specifically when it comes Iraq, it's pretty hard to accept their "reformed conservative" gimmick with any kind of sincerity.
Also, many are congratulating Chris Wallace for asking Trump a couple of tough questions, but I assume he has let plenty of other misinformation go unchallenged?
Mr. Wallace, 72, is comfortable being a bit of an enigma. For every Trump loyalist who views him as a heretic, there is a liberal who wishes he’d denounce colleagues like Sean Hannity. (To be clear: He won’t.)
Lincoln project is currently in “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” territory right now but will turn on a dime. Their outreach to moderates is going to sucker a bunch of people who fancy themselves as liberal when the trump era is over. It’s a smart long term play.
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Lincoln project is currently in “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” territory right now but will turn on a dime. Their outreach to moderates is going to sucker a bunch of people who fancy themselves as liberal when the trump era is over. It’s a smart long term play.
It's a pretty obvious grift, but it's the type of grift that liberals love to lap up.
Until any of the Lincoln Project members apologize for their roles in the Bush administration, specifically when it comes Iraq, it's pretty hard to accept their "reformed conservative" gimmick with any kind of sincerity.
The invasion was certainly the height of folly, equivalent to the Soviets going into Afghanistan(it hastened the end of the empire for them).
Unfortunately it did not stop there for the US. Libya looks like a bad mistake as well, so Obama received a lesson as well. Trump is the final blow and the US is on a losing streak right now, it’s really paved the way for the emergence of China.
