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			Mark Giordano
		
		
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			06-29-2020, 09:42 AM
			
			
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			So some details ... 
 
1. Calgary players only 
2. I'll look at games played, production and PPG to list options. 
3. My cut off won't effect options as I'll go deeper than required 
4. I'll label them by rank (3rd line LW) but don't select the player that matches that role the best, pick the best player. 
 
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We elect a position, say 2nd line RW, remove that name and do the 3rd line RW the next day. 
 
I'll post a summary as we go along. 
 
Calgary Flames All Time Roster 
 
Gary Roberts - Joe Nieuwendyk - Jarome Iginla 
Johnny Gaudreau - Doug Gilmour - Theo Fleury 
Matthew Tkachuk - Sean Monahan - Lanny McDonald 
Alex Tanguay - Joel Otto - Joe Mullen 
Hakan Loob - Kent Nilsson 
 
Al MacInnis - D2 
D3 - D4 
D5 - D6 
D7 
 
Miikka Kiprusoff 
Mike Vernon 
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			06-29-2020, 09:51 AM
			
			
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			I like Suter, and I think he should probably be in the Hall of Fame, but Gio is a Norris-winning defenseman and has been on the team for ages.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-29-2020, 09:51 AM
			
			
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			Everyone's favorite Italian Flame.  
 
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			06-29-2020, 09:53 AM
			
			
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			Gio, then Suter, then Reinhart or McCrimmon for me
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-29-2020, 09:56 AM
			
			
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			No reason to break up one of the all time great defensive pairings that won the organization it's only Stanley Cup.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-29-2020, 10:03 AM
			
			
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			Easily Regehr, Gio next
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-29-2020, 10:10 AM
			
			
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Wanted to pick Regehr as well but Gio has a Norris. Two different styles but easily Gio this round.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-29-2020, 10:35 AM
			
			
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			To me Suter is like Mullen in that he is underappreciated for what he brought to the table because of the depth on the team at that time. Suter and Giordano should be a lot closer in voting than they are.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-29-2020, 10:42 AM
			
			
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			Gio probably wins this one with a decent margin. I’ll probably vote Regehr for #3
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-29-2020, 10:54 AM
			
			
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			I love Reg, but Gio is as responsible as Reg ever was in his own end, plus he puts up very decent offensive numbers. In his Norris year, I think Gio was the best Flame and should have been in the conversation for the Hart. Reg was never the best player on his team.  
 
I may be misremembering, but didn't Reg go a couple years in a row with zero goals?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-29-2020, 11:13 AM
			
			
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				Gio probably wins this one with a decent margin. I’ll probably vote Regehr for #3 
			
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#3 is Suter easily for me. I don't know if some people realize how good he was.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-29-2020, 11:14 AM
			
			
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			Housley not even in the conversation? Hall of Famer with 1200+ career points. Wasn't on the cup team, but played more years than Gilmour with the Flames. More than a ppg player for a couple of seasons in his career.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-29-2020, 11:21 AM
			
			
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				Housley not even in the conversation? Hall of Famer with 1200+ career points. Wasn't on the cup team, but played more years than Gilmour with the Flames. More than a ppg player for a couple of seasons in his career. 
			
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I'm guessing most people didn't vote for him for the same reasons you didn't. He is underrated though.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-29-2020, 11:27 AM
			
			
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			MacInnis 
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Giordano 
Regehr 
Brodie 
Macoun 
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			06-29-2020, 11:30 AM
			
			
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				I'm guessing most people didn't vote for him for the same reasons you didn't. He is underrated though. 
			
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			06-29-2020, 11:34 AM
			
			
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			06-29-2020, 11:36 AM
			
			
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				At this stage it's hard to vote against a guy who has been team captain of seven seasons and Norris trophy winner. After Gio is in though, Housley definitely deserves consideration. Brodie has had his name raised more than Housley, which is pretty nuts if just picking the best player. 
			
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			06-29-2020, 12:13 PM
			
			
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			I almost did go Suter here too.  Having him emerge in 85-86 really helped the Flames make what was a charm between them and Edmonton into a gap.  He did play in a higher scoring era but still has a 91 and 81 point season and two others over 70 to his credit.  Plus he was an all zones defender too.  I think the trio of him, Vernon  and Mullen were critical additions that made the Flames a lot tougher for the Oilers than the previous teams had been. 
 
Ultimately I still went Giordano because of era adjustment for the offensive numbers and the fact that he has been the top guy for an extended run here.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-29-2020, 12:16 PM
			
			
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			06-29-2020, 12:35 PM
			
			
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			very comfortable voting Gio here. am also comfortable throwing out our Gio-Macinnis (homegrown) pairing against what most teams can offer (as long as Orr or Lidstrom aren't out there) as two guys that can play the game anyway you like 
 
 
anyways having said that I wanted to acknowledge 2 similarities between Suter and Gio 
1. They both were like surprise Christmas presents for the team- one a very late draftpick the other a wandering walk on 
2. They hoth had their playoff 'legacy' tainted in part by injury- Suter a huge member of the 86 and 89 clubs but injuries prevented him for seeing either run through to conclusion; Gio almost always (for a fairly healthy guy) running into injuries in key seasons when the team was poised to do something
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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