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Old 06-11-2020, 11:40 AM   #2541
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Canada is not systematically a racist country, in fact it bends over backwards to be welcoming. I've been involved in many immigrant agencies and the amount of services available is abundant. Free English classes, free job training, free childcare, only available to non-citizens. Churches and libraries run classes for free.


Now, are there business areas that discriminate? Sure. But to say Canada as a whole is systemically racist is to undermine the work of many people IN THE SYSTEM!
God, I hate your ignorant guts.
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Old 06-11-2020, 11:41 AM   #2542
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Cool, cool. Now describe the experience of indigenous Canadians.

You're cherry picking but yes this is a problem. What are the solutions?
There are Aboriginal Services in Calgary. Are they the right ones? Do they address the right problems? That's another discussion.
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Old 06-11-2020, 11:42 AM   #2543
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You're cherry picking but yes this is a problem. What are the solutions?
There are Aboriginal Services in Calgary. Are they the right ones? Do they address the right problems? That's another discussion.
"Cherry picking". Classic!
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https://exclaim.ca/music/article/lad...q5zY0wkOTnH-ck


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Country trio Lady Antebellum certainly had a memorable multi-syllabic moniker for their band, but the word "antebellum" actually refers to the pre-Civil War era of American history, when slavery was rampant. Finally reading the room, the band has decided to change their name.

In a new Instagram post, the trio announced that they will now go by Lady A. (Hopefully no one asks them what the "A" is short for.)
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It is unusual. I dont get it. Why does leadership automatically take the complainers side? Don't they know the context of the quote, the context of an editing meeting? They've only done it a million times. Don't they know Mesley who has been around forever? Is she suddenly racist? To me it's just a lack of leadership.

Anyways a bit off topic but I find the language minefield insane. My days are probably numbered.
Yeah maybe the Covid-19 face mask thing comes at the right time.

It could help some people keep from damning themselves with their words whether it’s deserved or not.

In any case, there’s a van with a confederate flag on the back parked next to my house right now. Have no idea whose it is. The neighborhood streets are being torn up and it could belong to someone on the other side of the neighborhood. The flag would always seem weird. But especially so now.
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Old 06-11-2020, 12:14 PM   #2546
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People have different ideas of what 'systemic' mean. To some it means anything social. To others it means laws and policies.

Canada used to have racist laws and state policies. You'd be hard pressed to find any now. The changes have been pretty dramatic. Have they made Canada a society without racism? No. But it takes willful ignorance or dogmatism to ignore the transformation of society over the last 60 years. But then I'll never understand the fierce hostility to recognizing progress. I guess some people think acknowledging progress is a concession in a cultural tug-of-war match.
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God, I hate your ignorant guts.
Solid take there. Because that’s sure to enlighten another on the plights faces by others.

Hate for another because your beliefs are more valid or espoused than theirs is not going to help.
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Old 06-11-2020, 12:28 PM   #2548
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Canada used to have racist laws and state policies. You'd be hard pressed to find any now.
O RLY?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carding_(police_policy)

This isn't a retired policing tactic from a bygone era. Literally just yesterday the Chief of the Calgary Police Service defended officers under his command stopping and harassing people on the street, with racial minorities targeted a disproportionate amount of the time, despite none of those people causing trouble or being accused of a crime or posing a danger to pubic safety in that moment.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...lice-1.5606964

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Statue made its way onto Last Week Tonight with John Oliver a 3 years or so.



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I hate that statue for the race baiting intentions of it, but I love that it makes their side looks absolutely ridiculous.
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Old 06-11-2020, 12:48 PM   #2551
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I had a good conversation with my most recent ex gf who is Canadian but her ancestry is Haitian. It didn't ever occur to me that asking her for her views on all of this might be considered racist.
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I'm sorry here man. Can you reference this? Pretty broad and bold statement.

Step away from Google. Seriously.
I did reference it. Did you even open either of the links I posted?
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No point. Disregard.
Saw you edit, but in response to your original inquiry, it was in the link he had in his post.

Neufeld supports carding.

And not to belabour your original post, but stepping away from google for what purpose? So he can't inform himself of the issues with the CPS? That seems like a weird argument.
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I did reference it. Did you even open either of the links I posted?

You linked Wikipedia. Did you happen to read the actual citations? Doubt it.

Just because it's on the internet, doesn't make it a fact. Just because it has a nice footnote of someone's opinion, also doesn't make it fact.

Anyway, why I posted again, I'll never know. I mean, it's not like anyone can say anything to make you rethink your position.

Over the course of the past week, I have rethought my position numerous times. There are changes that need to be made undoubtedly. But I guess I just draw issue with the opinions of the misinformed that use Google as fact and a way to back up whatever opinion they have.
 
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You linked Wikipedia. Did you happen to read the actual citations? Doubt it.

Just because it's on the internet, doesn't make it a fact. Just because it has a nice footnote of someone's opinion, also doesn't make it fact.

Anyway, why I posted again, I'll never know. I mean, it's not like anyone can say anything to make you rethink your position.

Over the course of the past week, I have rethought my position numerous times. There are changes that need to be made undoubtedly. But I guess I just draw issue with the opinions of the misinformed that use Google as fact and a way to back up whatever opinion they have.
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Of course Canada is systemically racist, in truth all countries are to some degree or other but doesn't make it ok here, we cant say 'well we're not as bad as the US so I guess everything's fine' our challenge as Canadians, especially white Canadians, is to push back at racism where and when we find it.

Just a small point Girly, a country can be wholly welcoming to immigrants and still be systemically racist to its native community and that makes the country, Canada, systemically racist.
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Solid take there. Because that’s sure to enlighten another on the plights faces by others.

Hate for another because your beliefs are more valid or espoused than theirs is not going to help.

Good thing nobody asked you.
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Old 06-11-2020, 01:17 PM   #2560
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You're cherry picking but yes this is a problem. What are the solutions?
There are Aboriginal Services in Calgary. Are they the right ones? Do they address the right problems? That's another discussion.
A system, of working to segregate and destroy the culture of a particular group of people, was in place in this country up until very recently. The residual effects of that systemic racism (which is exactly what it is), still exist today. And will likely take generations to completely irradiate.

Sure, the policy makers and current population in this country have been very receptive to immigrants. That does nothing to detract from the fact we have systemic racism problems of our own.
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