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Old 01-30-2007, 12:53 PM   #1
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Al Gore to face oil country crowd

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/...e9b08dc&k=6731
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Thank God. I swear we should FORCE all our energy executives to attend this event and tape their eyes open.

I just watched An Inconvenient Truth, it is a very, very pursuasive and impacting film.

As major players in the production of the greenhouse gases it is our ethical responsibilty to do everything we can to clean up the energy industry.

First, it starts with drastically reducing the impact of our current energy production, particularly oil sands.

The next step is to transform our economy in the long run to other forms of energy production that are clean. With the resources our companies and our government has from this industry we can and should be world leaders in change.

What happens if we don't lead that charge and make that transformation? The world will start demanding new energy sources - if it is not us that is on the leading edge, then our city and province will die.

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Old 01-30-2007, 12:54 PM   #2
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maybe someone should ask him why jupiter's surface temperatures are rising...

those damn jovian SUV's!
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Old 01-30-2007, 12:55 PM   #3
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WE all know the real reason Al Gore is coming to Alberta is to continue his search for the elusive (and imaginary) ManBearPig.

Edit: [For maximum effect, pronounce the next phrase outloud with a slight lisp] I'm being so serial
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Old 01-30-2007, 12:57 PM   #4
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He's gonna battle? Wow...I put my money on Gore with an uppercut KO.
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Old 01-30-2007, 12:59 PM   #5
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maybe someone should ask him why jupiter's surface temperatures are rising...

those damn jovian SUV's!
And Mars, and....oh wait....it must be that darn Mars Land Rover...
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Old 01-30-2007, 01:00 PM   #6
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maybe someone should ask him why jupiter's surface temperatures are rising...

those damn jovian SUV's!
Links? I would love to read about this.
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Old 01-30-2007, 01:03 PM   #7
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Whoa! Tickets are $159.00 at ticketmaster, guess I won't be going.
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Old 01-30-2007, 01:04 PM   #8
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And Mars, and....oh wait....it must be that darn Mars Land Rover...
yep... the sun is what, 99% the mass of the solar system?

so fluctuations in the output of the sun must therefore logically have zero effect on the earth's temperature when political hay can be made.

the agendas behind politicized environmentalism scare the hell out of me. and it DOES NOT end with al gore and a return to the white house for the tenessean. it has to do with global government, with per-mile taxes for driving, and the loss of much freedom for people everywhere.
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Links? I would love to read about this.
it just something i've been hearing... EVERYWHERE.

i'll get around to a thread sometime, it's been brewing in me for a bit.
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Old 01-30-2007, 01:07 PM   #10
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yep... the sun is what, 99% the mass of the solar system?

so fluctuations in the output of the sun must therefore logically have zero effect on the earth's temperature when political hay can be made.

the agendas behind politicized environmentalism scare the hell out of me. and it DOES NOT end with al gore and a return to the white house for the tenessean. it has to do with global government, with per-mile taxes for driving, and the loss of much freedom for people everywhere.
Hmmm, I actually agree with you too.

Global warming is a problem, but idiots like Gore have been turning the issue into a political agenda.

We don't even know for 'sure' that humans are directly the 'only' cause.

Another thing, we can't even properly predict the weather a week ahead of time, how the heck can they predict the weather 100 years down the road?
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Hmmm, I actually agree with you too.

Global warming is a problem, but idiots like Gore have been turning the issue into a political agenda.

We don't even know for 'sure' that humans are directly the 'only' cause.

Another thing, we can't even properly predict the weather a week ahead of time, how the heck can they predict the weather 100 years down the road?
My guess is you haven't watched his film yet. There is no dispute in the scientific community as to whether global warming exists. That debate is long over.

In the film he points out that of 958 peer reviewed journals on global warming, not one single article disagrees with the scientific consensus.

It is a fact that Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere traps the sun's rays. Thereby heating up the atmosphere. Right now, Co2 levels are way higher than they have been in human history. Therefore, we have a warming of the earth.

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Global warming is a problem, but idiots like Gore have been turning the issue into a political agenda.
Generally the role of government (and therefore politics) is to solve problems of society. So therefore isn't a political issue. How can the future health of the planet, the ecosystem and the health of humans not be a political issue? It is the political issue of our time.

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well us humans sure aren't helping, i read a sci-am article that outlined one scientist's theory based on ice core air bubble samples that we actually flattened out the bottom swing of a curve in the middle ages with our activity on the sine wave of CO2 fluctuation, thus actually stopping a minor ice age.

the equilibrium nature of CO2 and oxygen for one example is a funny one - more CO2 means stronger plant growth so it's not quite as simple as many would have us believe.

there's meandering back and forth of the trends on many things, there's something like 3 or 4 major solar cycles just in the last ~100 years of measurement and we're hitting the heights of a couple here in a few years.

we're not helping but at most we flatten out the huge swings, i mean one big forest fire easily beats the hell out of anything humans do for the entire year.
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I wonder if he is going to fly in?
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Old 01-30-2007, 01:15 PM   #14
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Another thing, we can't even properly predict the weather a week ahead of time, how the heck can they predict the weather 100 years down the road?
Easy. While the local weather guy is just taking a stab in the dark the government, and THEIR scientists, are always right. Didn't you know that?
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Julian Simon once called Gore the most dangerous and shallowest man in american politics, and I gotta agree with him.

Its quite hillarious how much credit these hypocritical environazis get.
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About 100% of these scientists in Paris are about to agree there is a 90% probability mankind is responsible - at least partly - for global warming.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/30/wo...0ce&ei=5087%0A

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Julian Simon once called Gore the most dangerous and shallowest man in american politics, and I gotta agree with him.

Its quite hillarious how much credit these hypocritical environazis get.

Why is pointing out scientific fact dangerous? In my opinion it is dangerous to ignore people like him that are making the effort to warn about the effects of our human activities.
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Old 01-30-2007, 01:23 PM   #18
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Global Warming isn't a politicized issue, it is a political issue... I'm surprised anyone could see Global Warming as being apolitical... there are clear sides/factions that stand to gain/lose economically based on how we go about adressing the problem (or not).
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I wonder if he is going to fly in?
hey man, i know what you're thinking, but i have it on good authority that private planes owned by environmentalists run on pure good will.

it's true, david suzuki told me while he filmed the famous stein valley logging site right outside lillooet (which is a valley away...), thus exposing me at a young age to the possibility that just because someone is saying all the right things, doesn't mean that they don't have some other agendas...
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Congrats to a former VP who has found an issue he can exploit and make money at it. Why the hell is the Calgary Chamber of Commerce subsidizing his visit? They better not be a tax payer funded group.

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